Well I wish I could offer a solution, but right now all I can give you is as problem. Mac Safari looks great, but IE 5.2 looks pretty rough.

The main header & content stretches to the left overlapping the navigation, obstructing not only view but also clickability of the nav items (they're clickable, just the left edges). Then the ad space from google shifts to the right, overlapping the main content. And if you scroll to the bottom, there's this large chunk of white space that juts out to the left. . . Check out screenshots of what I see here:

http://www.johndwells.com/temp/elbombin_01.pdf
http://www.johndwells.com/temp/elbombin_02.pdf

My first guess was that it's with how you're centering your wrapper div, but when I tried to adjust that to the method I'm familiar with, other things blew apart. Which doesn't mean it couldn't be better for you in the end, you'll just have to play with it.

The method I use is to "text-align: center;" the body, and then have your wrapper margin set to "margin: 0px auto 0px auto;", and "text-align: left;" to bring everything back to left aligned. Perhaps that starting point could prove promising. . .

The good news is that IE still likes the rollover and expand/contract of the navigation, if you can click on it. As for the example "pop-up", IE only displays a small bordered box to the left of the "ADDITIONS/CORRECTIONS" header, and Safari displays it fine but it sits underneath (z-index wise) your ending tagline of "El Bombin is Produced. . ."

HTH,
John




On Mar 2, 2005, at 7:44 PM, Stuart Homfray wrote:

Hi all,

I've been reading this superb list (off and on) for a while now, but typically, the first time that I speak up is to ask for something!!

I've set up a (currently rather small) site dedicated to a rather interesting aspect of the early days of football (soccer, to those who's football's played with the hands!!) - OK I *say* interesting, it *is* to a football geek like me, but that's not really the point.

I have tested the site with the usual PC browsers (IE4, IE5, IE5.5, IE6, Firefox, Opera 7, even NN4.7) and I'm reasonably happy, and I've looked at the layout using Browsercam for Safari, IE5.2, Konqueror and Opera 6 and (aside from a bit of trouble in Opera 6) I'm still reasonably happy, but it would be incredibly useful if a couple of 'kind souls' could spare a minute or two to test a couple of aspects of the site requiring user interaction.

The two areas that need checking are the 'VIEW COACHES' open/close menu toggle link, and, the 'see example' 'pop-up' help on 'Information' label in the small form at the bottom of the coach pages (the Jimmy Hogan/William Townley/Jack Reynolds pages). I've taken a couple of screen grabs of what they're SUPPOSED to look like as a comparison - see:

menu: <http://elbombin.stuarthomfray.co.uk/menu_beforeAfter.gif>
coach page info rollover: <http://elbombin.stuarthomfray.co.uk/coachespage.png>


The site url is <http://elbombin.stuarthomfray.co.uk/> - if you feel it would be better to contact me directly, please use [EMAIL PROTECTED], and if you feel the need to give anything on there a 'good kicking' in public - maybe the use of an inline style on the toggle link (Opera seems to demand it in order to work correctly) or the use of a clearing <div> (IE needs one, so using the excellent Easy Clearing float at P.I.E. seemed a bit pointless) - I'm more than happy to take it!

I await your responses with bated browser...

cheers,

Stuart

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