Re: [WSG] flash and accessabilty

John Allsopp Sat, 09 Apr 2005 01:53:50 -0700

I imagine something has got in a loop.

I know Peter F is busy tonight, and I'm not going to call him to ruin his night off, I will call Russ.

In the meantime, if everyone can be a little patient while the problem is solved, that will be best.

John

On 09/04/2005, at 6:36 PM, Ryan wrote:

Yeah, I received dozens of copies of the message, what's wrong?
On 4/9/05 12:23 AM, "Gizax Studios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
what happened? I've received more responses like this....
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Subject: Re: [WSG] flash and accessabilty
Patrick Lauke wrote:
In and of itself, flash will never be accessible to everybody, as it
requires a plugin; it's not a web native technology.
A plugin huh?, I've always wondered what the difference was between having to have the flash plugin and having to have a web browser? it is very hard to see any html css website without the correct plugin (that is a browser), so why does it suddenly become so much worse when flash is required? Sorry but I have just never understood this argument, would you mind explaining?

Older screenreaders can't access its content at all. So, it's important to provide accessible fallback mechanisms.
Yeah but my fallback positions for older browsers, like say netscape 2 are pretty hazy, theoretically they could understand the plain html, ignoring more modern tags but I haven't really tested it recently.

However, for the percentage of users that *can* use flash (have the plugin, have assistive technology that works correctly with it, etc), you should then ensure that the flash itself follows sensible, accessibility-related norms and conventions.

I'd suggest having a look at Bob Regan's recent post on Flash Accessibility http://www.markme.com/accessibility/archives/007003.cfm and the interesting WCAG 1.0 Techniques for Flash http://www.markme.com/accessibility/archives/007344.cfm (just to clarify: WCAG itself does not necessarily cover Flash, as it's not an official W3C technology...so this document makes recommendations that are similar / in sympathy with what WCAG tries to achieve, but in a Flash context).

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