Kornel Lesinski wrote: > Pretty does not mean accessible. OK, I should have said "look good and functional" ;-) For example, when DIVs overlap, links become unclickable, content disappear. etc.
> I think it's better to spend time on > some WAI checkpoints rather than adding display tweaks for NN4 and > alike. I try to do both. > If your HTML is well-written, it should be pretty accessible without > stylesheets or scripting, and you could spend your time on something > more useful. If the HTML/CSS is well written a document can "look good/be functional" in many browsers too. For example, why is it so complicated for some people to have a decent layout in IE5/Win? Because of its broken box model or because of the designer's skills? BTW, I think serving no style sheet to NN4 is one thing, but letting v.5 browsers feed on styles that "break them" is another story. > I'd absolutely drop NN4. If it still has any users alive, they should > be used to that sites are unstyled/broken in it. > NN6 is rather experimental/broken and I can't even find a trace of it > in webstats I use (ranking.pl). My reply to the OP was to tell him how I do it, not to tell people what they should do ;-) > Opera users upgrade so quickly that Opera 6 now has few times smaller > userbase than IE4. It's really marginal - I guess most of them are > mobile phones users, and only Opera 7+ has option for testing > handheld styles... I agree... > Check Gecko versions in NN7/Firebird and Mozilla/Firefox you use - > probably they use (almost) the same engines, so you don't have to use > them all for testing. You're right, but it feels so good when you open a document in 4 or 5 different browsers in a row and it looks the *same* :-) I don't [try to] build layouts with strong browser support because I "have too", I just do it for the challenge. And there is no time wasted because that's the way I learn... Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
