I'll fix this soon.

thanks,
Geoff.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hope Stewart
> Sent: Friday, 5 August 2005 11:10 AM
> To: Web Standards Group
> Subject: Re: [WSG] New front page for http://abc.net.au/
> 
> 
> Geoff,
> 
> One problem that I've found in both Firefox & Safari is that 
> when I increase
> the font size the search box and its button disappear from the page.
> 
> Hope Stewart
> 
> 
> On 4/8/05 7:18 PM, "Geoff Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Thanks for all the comments on the new ABC home page. I did 
> the front-end
> > coding, so I'm responsible for *some* of the issues raised.
> > 
> > The resizing thing:
> > I would have also preferred a scalable layout or a 
> stylesheet switch, but the
> > design differences are sufficiently great that I had to 
> build 2 html pages.
> > They are pulling different includes, in a different order 
> for a start. I
> > tested the script pretty extensively, but if you have 
> problems, email me and
> > I'll look into it.
> > 
> > The ABC (the New Media department anyway) is moving 
> generally towards
> > fixed-width centered layouts. Again, not my preference.
> > 
> > Navigation: 
> > The previous drop-down menus didn't test very well, and the 
> click-through
> > stats showed the in-page links were used much more. The new 
> global nav and the
> > "Explore the ABC" were quite popular.
> > 
> > The global nav coding was constrained by the fact that it 
> has to go on all ABC
> > pages as a single include file. Putting the style tag in 
> the include (and so
> > inside the body) was a compromise to get it to work without 
> having to edit
> > code across the whole of the ABC. We are fixing it for the 
> new/recent pages
> > soon. Old pages was will probably stay broken.
> > 
> > The Banner:
> > Making it an html image instead of a CSS background was 
> done so the banner
> > appears in CSS impaired browsers and in PDAs where the rest 
> of the page will
> > be unstyled.
> > 
> > Font-sizing:
> > Constant source of argument with designers, who always want 
> it too small. Up
> > to now I've been using the body {font-size:0.76em} trick 
> (most of the recent
> > ABC TV sites for example.) But the differences in IE when 
> browser text size
> > settings become much too great. So I've started using 
> font-size:76% instead,
> > which seems to work better.
> > 
> > Accessibility:
> > We haven't paid a lot of attention to it apart from making 
> sure the html is
> > clean/semantic and adding the skip links. we test pretty 
> widely across
> > browsers. Point taken about the missing title attributes, 
> but given the number
> > of links, and the fact they come from some many different 
> people in different
> > program areas, it is probably not going to get fixed.
> > 
> > BTW, if there is anything that particularly annoys (or 
> pleases) you, send
> > feedback via the contact form if you want it formally 
> logged. We do make
> > changes based on feedback we receive.
> > 
> > 
> > cheers,
> > 
> > Geoff Pack
> > Developer,
> > ABC New Media and Digital Services
> 
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