Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

[Kenny Graham]

> These debates always sink into a tables versus CSS mentality and that
> is really sad. The open-minded, pragmatic approach is simply to allow
> that in some cases, perhaps very rare cases, a simple layout table
> might be the better solution. I guess pragmatism is simply
> incompatible with certain mindsets in this business :-)

I agree, if "perhaps" is replaced with "only in extremely". ;)
I think that every time there is a technological transition, there need to be extremists.  We (the people arguing against tables) may be taking it a bit far, but somone has to fill that role to balance out the "i wish nothing would ever change" crowd.  It's kind of like the SpreadFirefox team.  Firefox is far from being a perfect browser, but there is still a need for people claiming it's flawless to keep the adoption rate up. Because if a relatively standards compliant browser gets enough popularity, it will force the market to adapt to new standards (see IE7's early release).  Without us CSS evangalists, sites like Wired would still be using HTML 3.2 and saying "what's the point?  it works fine as is."  However, I guess we also need people like Bert to try to drag us out of our obsessive compulsive, well-formed bubbles every once in a while for some fresh air.