designer wrote:
I mention this problem because, in the discussion on table usage, someone (John?) said he doubted if there was a single example where CSS didn't work and a table did. As far as I know, this is one of them . . .

...it is?

... many folk still like to place their content inside an 800 by 600 screen area AND have it centered both ways. Some say this is 'old-style' design, others prefer it to a 3-col clutter. It's just a matter of taste. To those people, this is worth discussing, surely?

Sure, and why not have it all in one go:
- no table for layout
- dead center (in part)
- 3 column (clutter)
- redesign (and keep on redesigning) until it comes out alright.

Think this will do as demo: <http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_8d.html>
...look out for "fixed"-- it's not a background.
Never mind the semantics... this _is_ just a test-page.

I don't think tables are 100% obsolete as layout-method just yet, but it
is pretty close. We can't copy all table-designs using CSS-based
methods, but really; we can't convert many good CSS-based designs back
to tables either.

Apart from the built in weaknesses of table-based designs of any degree
of complexity; tables are pretty limiting and can't deliver on designs
that'll live up to my taste. Neither can CSS-based layout for that
matter, but it sure can deliver more.

        Georg
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