Yes, it's the list changing. I fast fade in would fix it, and if the client really wants to keep it, then the best thing would probably be too provide the scripted effect, and let users without script deal with the harsh version. Tweaking with the appearance of the text might help too.

On 9/19/05, Scott Glasgow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Christian Montoya wrote:
> I think you have to ditch the ul's. By the way, the effect is really
> harsh on the yes, maybe it's not the best idea for such large blocks
> of text? I didn't even notice the effect right away, because it's not
> obvious, but then when I did notice it, it was hard to look at.
>
> On 9/19/05, Scott Glasgow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I would appreciate it if someone could take a look at this
>> http://www.earhartrefrig.com/services.htm
>> and let me know if I am going to have to ditch the <ul>s. The page
>> HTML and
>> CSS both validate ( 4.01 Trans.) except for the the <ul>s contained
>> in the span elements at lines 35, 54, 73, and 89. This is based on
>> Eric Meyer's Pure CSS Popups at
>> http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo.html, but I wasn't
>> thinking when I adapted it. His example, of course, uses text
>> elements, not block elements. Is there any way to hack this to get
>> it to validate with the <ul>s, or will I have to redo it using text
>> elements? Thanks.
<<::SNIP::>>

Yeah, that's what I thought. Not a terribly big deal in the doing, of
course, but I'll have to use entities to add the bullets (which client
wants), <br>s, etc., which slightly increase page weight. Not terribly so,
though, so nothing to sweat.

The effect is harsh? Hmm, I hadn't noticed, but then that's why we ask other
folks to lend us their eyes. ;-) When you say harsh, do you mean the
physical font, etc., or the fact that the list changes on mousing over the
images? If the former, I can experiment with other fonts and weights. If the
latter, I'll have to talk to the client about taking a different approach;
do you think perhaps a fast fade-in would be better? Only problem with that
is that it requires scripting, IIRC, which I would like to avoid (yeah, I
know; I'll be taking care of the horizontal nav soon :-). I'm not a purist,
but I would like to make sure everything works in the 10-15% (depending upon
whose reckoning you follow) of users without scripting turned on. I guess I
could provide the scripted version for those who have it and the, umm, harsh
version for those who don't.

Thanks for your reply.

Cheers,
Scott

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