Irina wrote:
I've found this to be an interesting idea and wondering what other
members think about it:
"When bugs become patterns - A look at CSS Hacks":
http://spaces.msn.com/members/siteexperts/Blog/cns!
1pNcL8JwTfkkjv4gg6LkVCpw!1805.entry
The idea is not new, the logic has a lot of merit (IMO), but is not
commonly used, and I wouldn't recommend it. Actually this fellow
doesn't do it justice: "class" is not a valid attribute of the html
tag, for one, and by assigning classes based entirely on the user
agent he's encouraging practices that have been debunked for some
time, especially in Javascript circles. Browser sniffing is just a
backwards-thinking method, compared to capability testing, which some
hacks attempt to do.
His technique might be better dealt with if he assigned classes like
this:
<body class="boxWidth minHeight floatJog">
...and so forth. Of course, to do this with either server or client-
side scripting still means browser sniffing, so you remain in an
awkward situation.
On Sep 29, 2005, at 10:14 AM, Drake, Ted C. wrote:
I think the future of CSS is not in hacks but looking seriously
into using the conditional comments. I’m saying this as someone
that is trying to figure out the best approach for retrofitting
older conversions.
Agreed. The major stylesheet should be standard-compliant only and
hack free. Then use a conditional comment to fix up the outliers.
Conditional comments are IE statements that say if ie6 use this
additional CSS file, if IE5Mac, use this style sheet, if neither:
ignore this statement.
IE 5 Mac does not respond to conditional comments. However, since it
is dead, its response to the Mac IE comment filters will not change
and such hacks are safe.
I’m dreading the idea of inserting conditional comments into the
head sections of html pages. I’d like to insert it into the
main.css file that imports more sophisticated styles. I have been
overwhelmed lately and haven’t been able to test any answers to
this. Does anyone have a suggestion?
If you don't mind proprietary styles in your CSS, I was working on a
conditional comment-like import statement that goes in the
stylesheet. It worked, but Win XP SP2 allows scripting to be
deactivated in the CSS as well as the regular page script, which
would deactivate this technique. So I abandoned it. If anyone is
interested, I suppose it still has a place in project where scripting
is a requirement. Let me know if you use it.
http://www.bivia.com/sandbox/css_cc_4ie/conditional_comment_test.html
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