Hi Terrence, My interest in Mike's post is in the client-developer relationship. What swayed the client toward excluding Mac IE from stylesheet support could be beneficial when considering the merits of such an approach with other standards-aware clients. Perhaps the RNZ decision means that Mac IE is now 'browser non grata'.
>The content is still available to any browser, so in that sense no-one is >being excluded. Substitute 'user-experience degraded' in place of 'excluded' if you will. Unless I have misunderstood Mike, a decision was made to exclude Mac IE users *when they had already been 'included'*. >taking a long term view there will be benefits from the reduced site >maintainence. Such as? A 'dead' browser cannot spawn new bugs, once know bugs have been addressed, there should be no impact upon website maintenance. >I can safely say, from server logs I have access to, the only people using >IE5/Mac in New Zealand are designers/developers testing their (or my) >designs, and you are more likely to come across IE/PC 4 in the wild. As you note,' from the server logs you have access to', and browser statistics vary depending on the user community--unless you're making direct reference to the RNZ website? Best regards, -- Andy Kirkwood | Creative Director Motive | web.design.integrity http://www.motive.co.nz ph: (04) 3 800 800 fx: (04) 970 9693 mob: 021 369 693 93 Rintoul St, Newtown PO Box 7150, Wellington South, New Zealand ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************