> i dont know if i will be able to sell them on > it. I was going to try the angle that web standards are helpful/essential > for accessability-which they get alot of requests for these days. The > programmers dont want me to do any coding or as little as possible-so as not > to step on thier toes.
If they actually care about accessibility, that'll be a good angle. Just make sure they don't turn it into "you're making more work for us". Also be careful not to let them mistake "validates" for "is totally accessible" since they are related, but not the same. I'd also talk about how going to standards will make future redevelopment much easier. If they're worried about you stepping on their toes, they're missing the point about separation of code and interface. If they've seen the CSS Zen Garden they probably don't think it has any practical applications... put the idea in their head that the swap could be from a client's old look and feel to their new corporate identity. That and clean XHTML is easier to hand-code than tables, which coders tend to like :) Hope that helps. cheers, Ben Buchanan -- --- <http://www.200ok.com.au/> --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************
