Georg! That's brilliant! I have absolutely no idea how it works but it does! I added the #content margin of -114px and no more popping down underneath the logo! Also, moving the contenttopleft top and bottom divs -3 px worked first time. But... the right side is proving more stubborn. Still won't close the gap in IE... How does giving the content div a negative margin from the right keep it in position on the left? Fascinating... also, why 114? what's the logic behind it? Thanks, Georg
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