On 1/30/06, Lachlan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joshua Street wrote:
> > I'm assured it's not going to move!
>
> I wouldn't believe that.  In fact, here's a perfect example of why 301
> shouldn't have been used.  On Today Tonight (another 7 network program,
> for those of you not in Australia), the host made a point of it to
> emphasise that the address had changed to:
>
>    http://yahoo7.com.au/todaytonight
>
> The old site address has been this for a long time:
>    http://seven.com.au/todaytonight
>
> I expected to get a redirect from the old site to the new site, but I
> didn't.  So, I went to the new site address and guess what!  I got a
> redirect from the *new* Yahoo7 address to the *old* (well, still
> current) address.
>
> Plus, it's a 301 Moved Permanently, so once they realise their mistake
> (assuming this is one, and not just some bogus advertising attempt) and
> they attempt to rectify it by redirecting in the other direction using a
> 301, I wonder what will happen with caches that still believe
> yahoo7.com.au is a permanent redirect to seven.com.au.  I've never tried
> setting up a loop like that, but I'd imagine the results won't be too
> effective.
>
> Another thing, if they do decide to switch to redirection to work the
> other way, and when the deal between Yahoo and 7 expires, and they go
> back to the current address, it'll screw everything up.  Trust me,
> they've gone through so many URIs in the last 6 years, it's not funny.
> There's i7.com.au, aol7.com.au (no longer belongs to 7 network),
> seven.com.au, sevennetwork.com.au, yahoo7.com.au and probably many more
> I'm unaware of.

Yeah. However, for the Sunrise Family site, _our_ redirection (not
that who 'they' and 'we' are actually matters to end users, but I feel
a need to justify poor URI planning as being someone elses fault!) is
purely internal. Apparently it's being promoted on the show as
http://yahoo7.com.au/sunrise/ -- and they're expecting people to click
through, rather than providing a direct link even when promoting it.
Strikes me as being a odd (politics, surely), but completely out of
our control.

As for Seven's scattered history, it amused me to today discover an
add for iPrimus on NineMSN.com.au ;-) Despite that, this one looks
more certain for a handful of reasons... the Yahoo7 press release
gives some clues, but it seems like Yahoo are hoping to basically head
up Seven's online presence... and Seven seem to be complying. Should
be interesting to watch unfold!

... mind you, all that is rather off topic, apologies!

Still keen to hear anyone's suggestions as to the Firefox 1.0.x render
problem... :)

Josh
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