Thanks Terrence Wood, yes the nav items work with images turned off, they have a bg color as well as an image.
Jay Gilmore, www.smh.com.au has most of their images in these files --> http://www.smh.com.au/css/2005/img/sprite_section-strap.gif http://www.smh.com.au/css/2005/img/sprite_li.gif Not a bad method. Im not sure it would work for us. but its worth investigating. Thanks for everyones input. ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************