On 2/15/06, Al Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > You're pre-supposing. If popup windows are scripted you reuse the
> > same
> > window object over and over. You can never have more than one open.
> > Your statement is only true if the target attribute is used.
>
> I'm not pre-supposing anything. All popup windows break the back
> button (popup as in a new window, Javascript or not). When I am done
> with the site that pops up, I want to use the back button to get back
> to the original site. That is natural web use and popups interfere
> with that. I have to close the window to go back, which, like has
> already been said, is not as convenient, as the back button is on my
> trackball (like a mouse but cooler), while closing a window requires
> alt-f4 (two buttons miles apart) or reaching for the X.
>
> Usually at this point I close the popup and "back out" of the
> offending site. But maybe I'm too harsh.
>
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>
> With all due respect, you are making a blanket assessment based on a
> worst case scenario. Having one or two links on a few pages in a site
> that open a single, named popup window containing, for example, sample
> pages for a tutorial in the main window, is a practical use for popup
> windows - at least in the opinion of some folks. I think it might be
> gracious of you to admit that there might be more than one useful
> opinion on this matter.

I would, if you weren't misunderstanding me. I am referring to,
specifically, the case of opening external sites from a weblog, or
opening external sites on a business page. I haven't said anything
about the help links, and I do think Javascript is better than having
the help on another page. I think popups are only reasonable for media
such as music players, photos, etc.

And they are definitely bad for PDFs... first a window opens and then
the PDF loads in its own program... very annoying.

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