> >I think you have come across a key lesson for the standards community: > >techies know about standards, they are not ignorant, they just have > >their own reasons (however lame) for not following them.
...which is why they can be a tough group to pitch to. They can be far more set in their ways than management. There are plenty of ignorant techies though, they're not all aware of standards. > I also think there are a lot of people who work in big organisations, > companies and even universities, that know that to raise these issues is > to put their job on the line. Some developers who have a good [snip] Even if you aren't at risk of losing your job, you can certainly make yourself unpopular if you speak the truth about tag soup/inaccessible systems. Particularly big, expensive enterprise applications which cost millions. Not to mention the fact that the people who implemented those bohemoths can't always separate standards advice from personal vilification - no matter how polite, rational, independently verfiable... Ben -- --- <http://www.200ok.com.au/> --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************