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See http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/cc-plus.html

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From: "al morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:07:42 +1000
Subject: Re: [WSG] Disappearing positioned footer in IE7 - works in IE6

Hi,

IE 7 now supports the *html hack, so the 'position: relative' style is
bein
g
applied. You can still add hacks for IE 6 and/or IE 7 but it's tricky..

If you need to send something to IE6 and nothing else: use the
underscore
attribute hack ( border:1px solid pink;)

If you want to send something to IE7 AND IE6, use the attribute hack
(*border:1px solid black;).

If you want to send something to IE7 and NOT IE6, use a combination
(*border:1px solid black;  border:1px solid pink;).

Try adding an underscore in the IE 6 class...

*html #bottom nav {       /*Enables the footer to be positoned below the
wrapper in IE6*/

             position: relative;

            bottom: -75px;

            right: 25px;

            text-align: right;

            width: 100%;

            height: 50px;

}


Al

On 4/24/07, Cole Kuryakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hello All -
>
>
>
> I was having an absolutely-positioned footer problem in IE6 which was
> fixed with the following:
>
>
>
> #bottom nav {                /*Compliant Browsers*/
>
>             position: absolute;
>
>             bottom: -75px;
>
>             right: 25px;
>
>             text-align: right;
>
>             width: 100%;
>
>             height: 50px;
>
> }
>
>
>
> *html #bottom nav {       /*Enables the footer to be positoned below
the
> wrapper in IE6*/
>
>             position: relative;
>
>             bottom: -75px;
>
>             right: 25px;
>
>             text-align: right;
>
>             width: 100%;
>
>             height: 50px;
>
> }
>
>
>
> Yes, well, now that IE 7 has come out the footer ***Poof!*** vanishes
-
> like it did under IE6 previous to the implementation of he above *html
> declaration.
>
>
>
> Could someone give me a lead on what to do about this issue in IE 7?
>
>
>
> Unfortunatly, I am not allowed to use conditional comments to issue
> version specific declarations - which makes problems like these very
> difficult to deal with.
>
>
>
> If you'd like to see the problem live, please go to
> http://terashock.terapad.com/ in FF or IE6 and scroll to the bottom of
th
e
> page to view how the footer is suppose to look; then view the same
page i
n
> IE7.
>
>
>
> Any and all assistance greatly appreciated!
>
>
>
> Cole
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Nick Fitzsimons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:41:48 +0100
Subject: Re: [WSG] Disappearing positioned footer in IE7 - works in IE6

On 24 Apr 2007, at 13:07:42, al morris wrote:

> IE 7 now supports the *html hack, so the 'position: relative' style  
> is being
> applied.

IE7 doesn't support * html:
<http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/02/460115.aspx>

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From: Alex Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:01:00 +0100
Subject: Re: [WSG] Disappearing positioned footer in IE7 - works in IE6

>IE7 doesn't support * html:
><http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/02/460115.aspx>


Except that very page says "[strict mode only fix]".

When in quirks mode you get the worst of both worlds since IE7 does 
not behave the same as IE6 even though it's picking up the same 
declarations. I'd wager that's what lies behind the developers' 
mantra of "Conditional comments, conditional comments, conditiional 
comments"...

Another reason to always use Strict mode if you can ;)



From: "dstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:01:32 -0700
Subject: re: [WSG] what is semantic?


                Navii:

Below is brief description of it.  There is also 
an article in the new "Economist" by Tim Berners-Lee.

++++++++++
+++

The word semantic stands for the meaning of. The semantic of
 something is the 
meaning of something. 

The Semantic Web 
is a web that is able to describe things in a way that 
computers can 
understand.

                                The Beatles was a popular band from
Liverpool.

                                John Lennon was a member of the Beatles.
                                The record "Hey
 Jude" was recorded by the Beatles.

Sentences like these can be 
understood by people. But how can they be 
understood by computers?



Statements are built with syntax rules. The syntax of a language d
efines the 
rules for building the language statements. But how can sy
ntax become semantic?

This is what the Semantic Web is all about
. Describing things in a way that 
computers applications can understa
nd.

The Semantic Web is not about links between web pages.  



The Semantic Web 
describes the relationships between things 
(like A is a part of B and Y is a member of  
Z) and the properties of
 things (like size, weight, age, and price)++++++++++++++++++++


It uses RDF (tags) for describing 
information and resources on the we
b.

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l.   I would really appreciate if any tell me what is the term
called 
semantic?   Thanks a ton Navii 
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From: "Stuart Foulstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:46:46 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Re: [WSG] Disappearing positioned footer in IE7 - works in IE6

This is an excellent example of why not to use hacks, but use your
design
skills.

Stuart


On Tue, April 24, 2007 1:07 pm, al morris wrote:
> Hi,
>
> IE 7 now supports the *html hack, so the 'position: relative' style is
> being
> applied. You can still add hacks for IE 6 and/or IE 7 but it's
tricky..
>
> If you need to send something to IE6 and nothing else: use the
underscore
> attribute hack (_border:1px solid pink;)
>
> If you want to send something to IE7 AND IE6, use the attribute hack
> (*border:1px solid black;).
>
> If you want to send something to IE7 and NOT IE6, use a combination
> (*border:1px solid black; _border:1px solid pink;).
>
> Try adding an underscore in the IE 6 class...
>
> *html #bottom_nav {       /*Enables the footer to be positoned below
the
> wrapper in IE6*/
>
>             _position: relative;
>
>             bottom: -75px;
>
>             right: 25px;
>
>             text-align: right;
>
>             width: 100%;
>
>             height: 50px;
>
> }
>
>
> Al
>
> On 4/24/07, Cole Kuryakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello All 
>>
>>
>>
>> I was having an absolutely-positioned footer problem in IE6 which was
>> fixed with the following:
>>
>>
>>
>> #bottom_nav {                /*Compliant Browsers*/
>>
>>             position: absolute;
>>
>>             bottom: -75px;
>>
>>             right: 25px;
>>
>>             text-align: right;
>>
>>             width: 100%;
>>
>>             height: 50px;
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>> *html #bottom_nav {       /*Enables the footer to be positoned below
the
>> wrapper in IE6*/
>>
>>             position: relative;
>>
>>             bottom: -75px;
>>
>>             right: 25px;
>>
>>             text-align: right;
>>
>>             width: 100%;
>>
>>             height: 50px;
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, well, now that IE 7 has come out the footer ***Poof!*** vanishes

>> like it did under IE6 previous to the implementation of he above
*html
>> declaration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could someone give me a lead on what to do about this issue in IE 7?
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunatly, I am not allowed to use conditional comments to issue
>> version specific declarations  which makes problems like these very
>> difficult to deal with.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you'd like to see the problem live, please go to
>> http://terashock.terapad.com/ in FF or IE6 and scroll to the bottom
of
>> the
>> page to view how the footer is suppose to look; then view the same
page
>> in
>> IE7.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any and all assistance greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>>
>> Cole
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:15:56 +1000
Subject: Drop down disappear behind form elements

Hi,
I think I recall this being discussed - but can't find any information 
on it now...
I have a drop down menu that is falling behind the form elements in IE
6.
Does anyone know a work around?
Thank you in advance
Melissa.
>   


From: "John Faulds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:40:48 +1000
Subject: Re: [WSG] Drop down disappear behind form elements

If you're talking about Suckerfish dropdowns and select elements, I've  
come across these:

http://homepage.mac.com/igstudio/design/ulsmenus/vertical-uls-iframe.htm
l
http://snipplr.com/view/1804/fix-for-menu-under-select-issue-in-ie/

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:15:56 +1000, Melissa Cooper  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> I think I recall this being discussed - but can't find any information

> on it now...
> I have a drop down menu that is falling behind the form elements in IE
6.
> Does anyone know a work around?
> Thank you in advance
> Melissa.
>>
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