Hi Mike,

I think there is a misunderstanding here. Removing the onclick event handler
from the markup is all that is being done, thereby the unobtrusive value of
the exercise. The DOM/JavaScript does not "insert" any links. The link
remains intact within the markup as it should be. It merely uses the rel
attribute of the <a></a> element as a trigger to launch the new window, as
would the onclick event handler attribute if it was placed within the <a></a>
element.

Frank

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Unfortunately, using JavaScript to insert such links is no more than a fudge
- you cannot rely on JavaScript being turned off in a screen-reader users
browser, and this cannot be regarded as 'unobtrusive', or even 'progressive
enhancement' as it is a fundamental change in behaviour.

Mike 

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> 
> If I read you right, sure it does. You can use unobtrusive 
> DOM/JavaScript to
> replace the onclick event handler in the (x)html markup with 
> a rel attribute
> in the <a></a> element. If the DOM/JavaScript is turned off, 
> the page will
> open through the link supplied as normal in a full, new 
> window. Also, an
> assistive device may read the <a></a> element's title 
> attribute (if employed)
> to identify where the link will take them to if chosen. 
> 
> You can find more info on the use of unobtrusive 
> DOM/JavaScript in Jeremy
> Keith's book, "DOM Scripting: Web Design with JavaScript and 
> the Document
> Object Model", and James Edwards and Cameron Adams book "The 
> JavaScript
> Anthology - 101 Tips, Tricks and Hacks". You can check Amazon 
> for reviews,
> etc. on them.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
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>  
> I believe what Jermayn is asking to keep the web standards 
> intact, without
> opening a new window, as accessibility doesnt allow us to 
> open pages in new
> window.
> 
> suggestions ?
> 
> regards
> -P
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> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Nirmal Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:21:43 +0530
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
> 
> 
> Hi,
>     You can use this code to open the pdf in a new window ...
>    <a link target="_blank" href="pdf file name(eg:
> OReilly.Head.First.Object.Oriented.Analysis.and.Design.Nov.200
> 6.pdf)">click
> here</a>
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On 5/9/07, Jermayn Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Hi group,
> > This may only relate to Western Australian people but 
> someone else  may
> > know...
> >
> > I have a page that has links to a pdf and the client wanted to know
> > whether it can be linked to a new window or not. They dont 
> really care
> > about best practises etc but rather what the state Internet 
> guidlines
> > are. I have looked through the 107 page doco but cannot 
> find anything.
> >
> > Thanks for you rhelp
> > Jermayn
> >
> >
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