Hi Paul,

I'm afraid your experience isn't one we've shared - we're more or less full-time Drupal developers now (after trying a number of alternatives). If you haven't tried it, Drupal 5.x is a major step up from Drupal 4.7 (which was already outstanding) - a very impressive system, and its theming capabilities from my experience are second to none.

Drupal uses php as its template language, too, which is a breath of fresh air (given that PHP *is* a template language, I find it amusing that so many people insist on inventing new templating languages written in PHP but with different syntaxes and without all of PHP's capabilities). With regard to the "little bits" of files, you may be referring to Drupal's rather elegant theme override capabilities, one of its great strengths, in my opinion. These allow you to change only the bits you want to change without incurring the overhead of replicating an entire theme if you don't need to.

Drupal's ecommerce functionality has been completely rewritten for 5.x, but it is my understanding that it is quite a big improvement over earlier versions. I haven't used it much myself (my colleagues here have more experience with it and rate it as very good), so I recommend a test drive before committing - but then that's true of any of the CMS/E-Commerce suggestions.

Cheers,

Dave

Paul Bennett wrote:
Hi all,

I just have to pitch in here. My dealings with Drupal have been less than 
wonderful. I find it vague and confusing  (kind of like it's trying to be 
everything to everyone) and when I tried to create a new template I found all 
sorts of crappy table-based code needed, as well as the need to create bits of 
files all over the place to get one new template working.

In my experience, something like Expression Engine 
(http://www.expressionengine.com) or wordpress (http://www.wordpress.org) would 
be a far better bet for a simple CMS and a heck of a lot easier for a 
non-technical editor to use.

Just my 2c anyway
Paul


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