Lisa, My DOCTYPE is HTML 4.01 Transitional. I'm trying to understand the importance of strict adherence to standards as pointed out by Stuart and David. This also includes your comments:
> 5.4 If a table is used for layout, do not use any structural markup > for the purpose of visual formatting. By "structural markup" were you referring to the use of <tr> and <td> elements to give content it's intended look ? My last response to Daniel Kendrick was mixed with long term intent. I hope that post didn't mislead anyone here to believe that I was using tables to control the layout of an entire page or even close to 50% of it. CSS page layouts are sufficient for now. My dilemna was and still is to autofit an image of any size (entire image should be viewable) within the table's background image property using the style attribute. This "table" is currently no more than roughly 100 pixels on either side. I guess there were a couple of concerns raised. One of them was the justification of the table's use. I chose it only because it is "currently" the only way I know to put pretty borders (outer and inner) around and within an image. The tabular elements <tr> and <td> are currently used to position these borders appropriately, using a combination of width and height attributes. While I'm being continously clued in by everyone's responses here that these are outdated practices, I'm still waiting on someone to post a newer standardized approach to acheive the same effect. David, Stuart, While I respect your intent, I prefer good advice to be complimented in the technical world by sound examples. If this is the wrong forum to be seeking such advice, please point me in the right direction. Regards, Matt On 8/1/07, lisa herrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/08/07, David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 1 Aug 2007, at 09:34, lisa herrod wrote: > > > On 01/08/07, Stuart Foulstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Web Standards say only use tables for tabular data - not > > >> presentation. > > > > > > Stuart, I think you're referring to WGAG 1. > > > > Lets look at HTML 4.01 instead, which is somewhat clearer on the > > subject: > > hmmm.... I must have missed the email re doctype. Matt, what doctype > are you using? > in any case, I don't think it really matters. > > Let's get back on topic. > > Matt, your initial question was: > > "Is there a standardized way to present this without resolving to a > Javascript or CSS hack ?" > > I'd say you have two choices: tables or CSS (or both). > > Most people will advise against you using tables for layout. However, > if you do use them... don't nest them and don't use any markup that > will identify them as tabular data - unless it is. > > Guys feel free to jump in with any CSS layout advice! :) > > Lisa > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* > > ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************