BTW out of curiosity I googled and SEO firm someone I know used and the firm wasn't in the top 10 ranking it claimed it could put its customers in. Did see a good article on it though

*What's an SEO? Does Google recommend working with companies that offer to make my site Google-friendly? *

http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=35291

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Andrew Boyd wrote:
Hi Keith,
I suspect that Michael may be inferring that SEO is not a fit and proper subject for the WSG list. I'm happy either way - it isn't strictly web standards per se, but neither is IE8 Beta's underperformance, and I am glad to learn about both without subscribing to other lists. Moderaptor call I guess :) Cheers, Andrew *Andrew Boyd
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I don't really understand your question.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Michael Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    What are the SEO issues in web standards?

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    Keith Steinacher wrote:
    > What I meant by 1 set fee was "I'll get you top rankings on all
    search
    > engines and fix all your woes for $99.99!!"
    >
    > Charging by the page or per hour (as I do it) is more legitimate.
    > Some projects you can't really charge by the page though.  I
    have one
    > client who's site has 600,000 pages or more.  I'm not going to go
    > through it page by page.  At that point it becomes necessary to make
    > the SEO of a site more dynamic.  While anyone can learn how to
    do SEO
    > from a book or an online class, it doesn't necessary mean that they
    > can take your site (of any size) and make it number 1 for a "canned"
    > fee.  Anyone that tells you that is not to be trusted.
    >
    > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:07 PM, dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
    wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >     On 3/4/08, *Keith Steinacher* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
    >
    >         I wouldn't pay much attention to anyone that says they can
    >         solve all of your site's problems for 1 set fee.
    >
    >
    >     why not? i charge by the page and do the seo myself.  there's a
    >     free class at:
    http://www.gnc-web-creations.com/seo-optimization.htm
    >
    >     dwain
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