we are thinking to leave the title (in the <head>) of the page blank...
since we have a good <h1> for the page... my question is do screen readers read the title of the pages that within the frameset? Cheers, Anat -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 6:02 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers.... Hi, The link I gave discusses screereaders and seems to suggest that screenreaders use the title attribute of the frames rather than the title tag within the head section of the frame contents. Since the article specifically relates to screenreaders and their accessibility problems with frames and as it makes no mention of title tags of frame contents, it would seem not to be currently an issue. However, a future user agent/screenreader may wish to use the title tag (or you may wish to use "no frames" section to access frame content pages separately) so why not include the title tag anyway - it shouldn't make too much effort and may help in the design process semantics. On Wed, April 2, 2008 11:30 pm, Anat Katz wrote: > > thanks for that Stuart. > > We have already implemented frame titles, we were actually referring to > the page titles (found within the HEAD) of the html that makes up the page > within the frame. If these were left blank would it cause a problem??? > > Frame: > <frame src="page.html" name="BodyContent" id="BodyContent" title="Main > Content" longdesc="frameset-desc.html#BodyContent" noresize="noresize" /> > > page.html: > <HEAD> > <TITLE>???</TITLE> > </HEAD> > > Cheers, > > Anat > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone > Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2008 8:43 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Frames and title relevance to screen readers.... > > > Hi, > > You might find the following link useful: > > See http://www.webaim.org/techniques/frames/ > > Stuart > > On Wed, April 2, 2008 1:13 am, Anat Katz wrote: >> >> Hi team, >> >> Just a general question - is there any value from a screen reader point >> of >> view, to have a specific title to the actual pages that were build >> /called >> by the frameset. >> Is there any value for screen reader's users? >> I.e.: the page that contains the main content, should have a specific >> /relevant page title? 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