YUI / Blueprint / jQuery / MooTools / Scriptaculous / Code Igniter / Cake PHP etc.....
The thing you need to remember with any framework - use only what you need. Does using a framework mean you need to construct a menu with javascript? Heck no. Do you need to use any of the supplied tools? No. Should you use it to aid in specific tasks that it helps with? Sure. I was against frameworks for a long time - but now I use, Code Igniter for my PHP work (again, only as necessary), jQuery for my Javascript (as needed), and I'm using a modded version of the 960 grid system along with my regular css. In no event do I exclusive rely on the framework (though I've really dug into Code Igniter) and I always write my own stuff along side. I wouldn't recommend using any framework until you're comfortable with the tools its built for first. I'd never use YUI until I knew how to replicate many of the things it accomplishes by hand first. I wouldn't use jQuery if I wasn't comfortable writing scripts from scratch. Same thing with Code Igniter and PHP. I've done some many layouts that use hand-written floats and clears to mimic grid systems that I finally said, "Why not?" In the end its a couple superfluous div tags with presentational class names.... Many will cry blasphemy, and I'd be one if I hadn't properly weighed the options and discovered a middle ground that seems to work. Point: A new tool in the tool box can help speed up certain tasks, but no framework or tool is the be all, end all of web development in any form. At least not yet. The frameworks are for the most part wonderfully made and thought out. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -------------------------------------- Sites by Joe, LLC /"Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design"/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] James Jeffery wrote:
I see.Cheers for the reply. On 4/28/08, *David Dorward* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:On 28 Apr 2008, at 11:35, James Jeffery wrote: Call me wrong but from my knowledge relying soley on JavaScript and JSON for a menu is a bad idea when accessibility is concerned. Generally speaking, yes, although there are exceptions. Do they expect the users to create alternatives for users who would not be using Javascipt? Yes. The example that i quickly looked over is: http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/menu/topnavfromjswithanim.html http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/examples/menu/topnavfrommarkupwithanim.html is the same menu built from markup instead of JS.-- David Dorwardhttp://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*******************************************************************
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