On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:41 PM, Joseph Ortenzi wrote:

Most of what I've seen people put into ActiveX and .NET can be done otherwise by clever developers and still be standards compliant or at least, cross-browser-compliant.

If you need to write proprietary code that is browser specific you are not adhering to web standards. either it is important or it isn't, no fence-sitting allowed..

well, obviously. and furthermore this is the web standards group, so i thought that it would pretty much go without saying.

I was just making the point that there are (way too) many developers who are obliged by their employment situation to do things they might prefer not to, and worse there are others who aren't even aware that there's a fence.

Just because everyone *could* be writing standards-compliant pages, sadly that does *not* mean that we can expect that it will become common practice in the foreseeable future. I would hope it's reasonable to suppose that everyone in this group is committed to standards. I'm sorry if it's now heretical to point out that not everyone shares our commitment, and that some of us are sometimes obliged to cross the line...

Andrew







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