Call me dumb but i am really stumped on this.

If you look through my source you will see i have added a transparent border
to the bottom of #main-navigation and #welcome. Without adding the border
the margins added to ul#article-summary-list (top margin) and the
#main-navigation (bottom margin) are not affected. Im on my new iMac (he he)
using firefox.

Stumped. Here is the source. Copy and paste it as its bare bones anyway:

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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "
http://w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";>
<html lang="en">

    <head>
        <title>Maypole Youth Centre</title>

    <style type="text/css">

        /* Globals */
        html * {margin: 0; padding: 0;}

        body
        {
            /* 62.5% works out to about 10px, which is good for
            sizing things up. 16px/100 x 62.5 = 10 */
            font: normal normal 62.5%/1.5 Arial, sans-serif;
            width: 80em;
            margin: 0 auto;
        }

        ul {list-style: none;}

        /** Layout and Sizing **/
        #main-navigation
        {
            margin: 4em 0;

            /* Note: Not sure if this is a fix, but it worked. Scope
            out an alternative method ... If one exists.

            Problem: Needed to apply overflow:hidden; to this element
            but was not possible because of the way i did the dropdown
            menu, if i added the O.F it would have hidden the content
            from the sub menu dropdown.
            Without any fix the H1 (used for testing) was not affected
            by the top and bottom margin values that are set above. */
            border: 1px solid transparent;
        }

        #main-navigation li
        {
            position: relative;
            float: left;
            width: 13.3em;
            height: 2em;
        }

        #main-navigation li a
        {
            display: block;
        }

        #sub-navigation
        {
            position: absolute;
            top: 2em;
            left: 0;
        }

        #main-content
        {
            overflow: hidden;
        }

        #welcome
        {
            float: left;
            width: 40%;
            border-bottom: 1px solid transparent;
        }

        #youtube-video-list
        {
            float: right;
            width: 60%;
        }

        ul#article-summary-list
        {
            margin-top: 200px;
            clear: both;
            position: relative;
        }

        .article-summary
        {

        }

        /* When the menu isn't in use hide the sub menu's */
        .sub-navigation
        {
            display: none;
        }

        /* When the user hovers over a superlink, display
        the list of sublinks.
        Note: Needs to be tested in older browsers. Not
        sure off hand if :hover works on list elements in
        IE5.5 and IE6. */
        #main-navigation li:hover ul
        {
            display: block;
        }

        /** Style, color and text **/
        #main-navigation li
        {
            text-align: center;
        }

    </style>

    </head>

    <body>

        <!-- Navigation Block :: Appears at the top of the page  !-->
        <ul id="main-navigation">
            <li id="first"><a href="#">Homepage</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">About Us</a>
                <ul class="sub-navigation">
                    <li><a href="#">The MPC</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">The Staff</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">In The Press</a></li>
                </ul>
            </li>
            <li><a href="#">Projects</a>
                <ul class="sub-navigation">
                    <li><a href="#">Adventures</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">Cycling</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">Detached Work</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">Action Group</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">MYFC</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">Saturday Club</a></li>
                </ul>
            </li>
            <li><a href="#">Community Boards</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">Other Services</a>
                <ul class="sub-navigation">
                    <li><a href="#">Maypole Juniors</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">Studio Practice</a></li>
                </ul>
            </li>
            <li id="last"><a href="#">Contact Us</a></li>
        </ul>
        <!-- Navigation Block End !-->

        <!-- Main Content Area !-->
        <div id="main-content">
            <div id="welcome">
                <h1>Welcome to the Maypole Centre</h1>
                <p>The Maypole Centre has been providing the young people of
Maypole and Druids Heath with
                educational services and projects to inspire and develop.
Our aim is to tackle drugs and
                crime through education and learning. The key is giving
young people hope, prospects and a
                potential future.</p>
                <p>Pete Norman, <span>Youth Centre Manager</span></p>
            </div>

            <div id="youtube-video-list">
                <h2>YouTube Video List (Eventually)</h2>
            </div>

            <ul id="article-summary-list">
                <li class="article-summary">
                    <h2>MYFC Goes Up!</h2>
                    <p>This year is a big year for Maypole Centre Football
Club and the Birmingham first league
                    is just the start. The season finished with the club
going into a new league and hopefully
                    a new stadium!</p>
                    <p class="read-more"><a href="#">Read Full
Article</a></p>
                </li>
                <li class="article-summary">
                    <h2>MYFC Goes Up!</h2>
                    <p>This year is a big year for Maypole Centre Football
Club and the Birmingham first league
                    is just the start. The season finished with the club
going into a new league and hopefully
                    a new stadium!</p>
                    <p class="read-more"><a href="#">Read Full
Article</a></p>
                </li>
                <li class="article-summary">
                    <h2>MYFC Goes Up!</h2>
                    <p>This year is a big year for Maypole Centre Football
Club and the Birmingham first league
                    is just the start. The season finished with the club
going into a new league and hopefully
                    a new stadium!</p>
                    <p class="read-more"><a href="#">Read Full
Article</a></p>
                </li>
                <li class="article-summary">
                    <h2>MYFC Goes Up!</h2>
                    <p>This year is a big year for Maypole Centre Football
Club and the Birmingham first league
                    is just the start. The season finished with the club
going into a new league and hopefully
                    a new stadium!</p>
                    <p class="read-more"><a href="#">Read Full
Article</a></p>
                </li>
                <li class="article-summary">
                    <h2>MYFC Goes Up!</h2>
                    <p>This year is a big year for Maypole Centre Football
Club and the Birmingham first league
                    is just the start. The season finished with the club
going into a new league and hopefully
                    a new stadium!</p>
                    <p class="read-more"><a href="#">Read Full
Article</a></p>
                </li>
            </ul>
        </div>
        <!-- Main Content Area End !-->
    </body>

</html>


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