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From: Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 00:00:51 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
To: Marvin Hunkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm sorry, marvin, but you can't make everyone happy as to the font problem
without ruining your site for everyone else.  Your friend should have
continued to increase the font size until he could read it, but don't let
people talk you into something that will mess your pages up.  Everyone can
control the font sizes through their browsers and they also can set their
own computers to display larger fonts by setting the system font size much
larger.

Maybe you should provide instructions to others for how to increase the
fonts in their browsers so you don't need to edit hundreds of pages and make
your page layouts look terrible.

Ron

-------Original Message-------

From: Marvin Hunkin
Date: 6/1/2008 11:11:41 PM
To: Ron
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes

Hi.
well, one guy on the wsg list, asking for feedback about my site,
said, that the fonts were really small, and as a part sighted person,
had to increase them 3 or 4 times, and he said still way too small.
the wsg list address to post is wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
and maybe subscribe and post there.
okay, will go and have a look at the images, zip file, i downloaded.
and okay, will put your changes in the style sheets, and the div tags
for the pages, will do that this weekend, and then edit the other
content.
sorry about that.
cheers marvin.
ps: so, do i use the pages, i downloaded them, for the star trek, or
just put all the episodes in season folders, go and find the season
folders, and then put the references to those links on the episode
page?
so i can then match off line, what is online?
is this right?
okay, will start to do that on the weekend.
cheers marvin.

On 6/2/08, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marvin:
>
> You don't need to change your font sizes!!!  Quit worrying about the font
> sizes on your pages.  They are fine!  If any of your friends need a larger
> font size to view the pages, then tell them to use Ctrl + or Ctrl -
keyboard
> keys.  Those with a center mouse wheel have their own way to
> increase/decrease a web page's font size without you having to edit
several
> hundred pages to just please them.  Plus, I told you, an increase in font
> size for your page is going to really mess up your page layouts and you
will
> have to GO BACK again and again to straighten them out.  Please leave well
> enough alone and concentrate on getting your content put in and your pages
> functional online.
>
> There is nothing wrong with the colors either.  The pages match the Star
> Trek themes.
>
> You should have gotten all the images I could find in the zipped file you
> downloaded.
>
> Ron
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Marvin Hunkin
> Date: 6/1/2008 5:58:12 AM
> To: Ron
> Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
>
>     Hi.
> thanks for that.
> will put that in, and hope that will cure my problems.
> and in the star trek cafe folder, edit, all the pages there, then copy it
> and override to Marvins Website.
> will ask my other friends, about how to change, the font size, and the
> colours.
> thanks for that.
> cheers Marvin.
> ps: now, just waiting for the images,that is the last thing i am waiting
for
> you to do, when you have time.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron
> To: Marvin Hunkin
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:04 AM
> Subject: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
>
>
> Let me see if I can get you through this step by step...
>
> On the styles.css file:
>
> 1) Where you have blockquote { margin: 5% 0 1% 16%; width: 67%;
text-align:
> justify; font-weight: bold; }, replace this with div.block {  width: 700px

> margin: 5% auto; text-align: justify; font-weight: bold; }.
>
> 2) On EVERY PAGE where the block quote tags (<blockquote> and
</blockquote>
> are, replace them with:
>     <blockquote> with <div class="block"> and <blockquote> with </div>.
Your
> page text content then goes in between this style within <p></p> tags to
> validate.
>
> On the navlinks.css file:
>
> 1) Where you have #menu { margin: 0 0 0 16%; }, replace this with #menu {
> width: 700px; margin: 0 auto; } to center the top nav menu on all pages.
>
> 2) Under #menu { width: 700px; margin: 0 auto; } add #menu_other { width:
> 500px; margin: 0 auto; text-align: center; } to center the lower nav menu
> with the other links.
>
> 3) On all pages where you have <div class="menu" style="width: 45%;
height:
> 1.1em; margin: 0 auto; text-align: center;"> for the other nav links,
> replace with <div class="menu_other">. This is right after "<h2 style=
> margin: 5% 0 1% 0;">Other Topics on Star Trek Cafe's Site:</h2>" on each
> page.
>
> These changes should center all the nav links on every page and "cure"
your
> problem with Jaws over the blockquote tags.
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Marvin Hunkin
> Date: 5/27/2008 7:28:07 PM
> To: Ron
> Subject: Re: Star Trek Cafe Site Files
>
> Hi.
> okay, so do i just leave the block quotes, in, and do a lot of
> editing, and copying and pasting.
> the reason why i took out the block quote, that if you get a demo copy
> of jaws, so you can see, what i mean, if you install it, you can
> uninstall it, when i have my reading method set to read by
> pararagraph, when i am using control down arrow, and says the other
> links on my site, like technology, reads them all in a row, and then
> says the block quote, all on the same line, would like to have it say
> on a separate line.
> that was the main reason why i took it out, please go to the site,
> download install, then once you see what i mean, then how to rectify
> that reading of it.
> without putting in line breaks.
> can you help?
> you really need to understand where i am coming from, or maybe ask
> some blind web developers, about this querk with jaws, on some of the
> blind lists, for web design.
> and then, once got that figured out, then will then put the images,
> and the html into those folders, that i have, save them to the current
> location, for pages, then copy and paste to my marvins website folder,
> and got startrek.net in a folder called
> e:\pkb\MarvinsFiles\MarvinsFiles\General\StarTrekCafe.net
> folder.
> cheers Marvin.
>
>
> On 5/27/08, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The zipped files are the way I have them on my hard drive and should
>> unzip
>> into a main folder called startrekcafe.
>>
>> Taking out the blockquote is not the way to make changes as I believe
>> that
>> was a styled tag which helped keep your pages set up properly.  Why you
> want
>> to make such drastic changes when your pages were just fine is still
> beyond
>> me.  I can see adding new content and updating content to the pages, but
> not
>> changing the layout which has caused your pages to be off-center.
>>
>> If you overwrite those pages with yours and yours have been changed
> without
>> the blockquote tags and other changes, then  you will have to go back and
>> look at each and every page with a sighted friend to get them corrected
> like
>> you want.
>>
>> All of the folders for the Next generation only have images.  I had no
> HTML
>> files in there.  These and others that do have HTML files and new added
>> images to folder have to have the image paths put in correctly and some
>> other parts deleted.
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Marvin Hunkin
>> Date: 5/26/2008 8:13:10 PM
>> To: Ron
>> Subject: Re: Star Trek Cafe Site Files
>>
>> Hi.
>> downloaded the file, except for the last 30 seconds, complained about
>> one of the files, not able to be found.
>> not sure why.
>> hopefully i got everything.
>> now, what do i do next, after self extracting?
>> just copied all my modified files, to the folders, that i had changed,
>> like taking out the block quote, and everything else?
>> and is eveyrthing aligned well now.
>> or do i just then copy all the html files, to this new location, over
>> riding, the modifications had made?
>> need some guidence on this one.
>> cheers Marvin and thanks for that, so it can mirror, what is off line,
>> the same, online.
>> will start to do this on the weekend, as got assignment to complete this
>> week.
>>
>> On 5/26/08, Ron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Here is the link for the file to downloaded:
>>> http://download.yousendit.com/A55EB9C34BA89291
>>>
>>> http://www.yousendit.com/download/ZncxckhiTERENlEwTVE9PQ
>>
>>
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