Hey Bob,
I totally agree with Ted and designer, and people who have the phone number 
auto Skype 'thing' turned on will actually be expecting that highlighting on 
any phone numbers. You should make it clear that you're really reducing the 
accessibility of the page by disabling the feature, as well as unnecessarily 
complicating the code.

It's always a pain explaining the technology to 'insistent' clients. I find it 
helps if you send them a link to a forum or blog that says the same thing. It 
shows that it really is about the technology, not just an excuse.

It always seems to be those that know the least complain the loudest. :P


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Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 4:24 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages

Hi Ted,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages


So, to summarize.

The web developer creates a nice looking page with content (phone numbers).
A user adds software that takes that content and makes it more useful (click
to call).
The developer and client doesn't like the way that new functionality looks.
The developer and client want to disable the functionality that many users
may actually use.

Doesn't this sound like a mistake? If a user installs software to make
better use of your site, you should allow this. If the client doesn't like
the way it looks, have them uninstall the software. I don't think you should
hurt the user's functionality. If nothing else, it is helping the client by
making it easier for the user to contact them. This is why Ebay bought skype
years ago. They wanted to make it easier for bidders to contact sellers.

For what its worth, I have the skype plugin but have never used the click to
call functionality. It's annoying sometimes, but easy to ignore.

Ted Drake
http://last-child.com

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Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:29 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages


Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into
skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others
too :

http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096

I do not use Skype, but one of my clients does, and my page design (for her
site) appears to her with the button instead of the text. (In IE). (She
blamed me, at first!) I know she can turn it off by disabling the Skype add
on in IE, but what about all the other folk around the world . . .

As this is to do with the web designer's work being tampered with, I feel
sure it will come under the heading of standards and accessibility. Sadly, I
cannot validate it for myself, but I expect it will be deadly.

Anyone got any clues?

Bob
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk

Absolutely Ted, except that this client (as suspected by Christian) didn't
have a clue where this feature had come from , and certainly didn't know
that it could be turned off. (That's why she blamed me! :-). I strongly
suspect that this is the norm, and I would have thought that at least it
should be made clearer to the Skype user.

Bob






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