<html>
<body>
This is a <input type="button" value="test" /> of the copied content
</body>
</html>

Firefox: This is a  of the copied content

Chrome:  This is a  of the copied content

IE:      This is a  of the copied content

Just style the button to look like regular text etc, add your javascript to
minimize/close the window, and you're set.
That works to notepad anyways. WYSIWYG editors are obviously going to cop
more, but I think that is more desirable and falls under what someone else
has already said, "don't try to be too clever"

What you doing 2morrow? Wanna hang?

 - Pete

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Paul Novitski <[email protected]>wrote:

> At 6/12/2009 01:42 AM, James Ducker wrote:
>
>> Something I've been pondering - how best to handle buttons and other
>> purely functional content residing within a block of selected text? Often a
>> user will select a bunch of text and get something like:
>>
>> > Some Headingminimiseclose
>> > Some text etc etc.
>>
>> I was thinking about adding JS mouse drag detection to hide "minimise" and
>> "close" (let's say they're <a> elements) when the user is mouse-selecting
>> text, but it would fail if a user used the text cursor to select.
>>
>
>
> It sounds as though you've already answered your own question -- don't let
> the controls reside within the block of copyable text. In most circumstances
> the user will want to copy the header along with the body text of a given
> section, so rather than inserting the controls in the middle of copyable
> text I'd put them before or after. If you want the controls to appear to the
> right of the heading in a left-to-right text flow, you could try putting
> them first in the markup and then floating them right or absolutely
> positioning them so the heading and text are contiguous.
>
> A more elegant & bulletproof solution might be to rethink the page layout
> and visually place the controls above or to the left of the heading to allow
> the natural text flow to exclude them from selection. If the controls look
> like they're in the middle of the copyable text, a user with browsing
> experience will naturally worry that the controls will get copied along with
> the text, diminishing very slightly their sense of trust in the
> intuitiveness of the design. A layout that puts them outside the selection
> highlight altogether -- modelled by the resize & close buttons in pc & mac
> windows that everyone's familiar with -- would be more of a no-brainer to
> use.
>
> Finding a way to reliably make the controls disappear while the user
> selects text sounds cool -- I can imagine all the ads and navigation and
> chromy bits disappearing while copying a story from a news site, for
> example, leaving my clipboard with the story I'm after not needing to be
> cleaned up -- but it also sounds a bit paternalistic in deciding in advance
> for an unknown user what they're going to want to select. If you place the
> controls before the heading in the markup, you leave it to the user to
> decide whether to include them in the selection highlight. For all you know,
> their purpose in copying text from the page is to illustrate in a document
> that aspect of the page layout that includes the controls. There's such a
> thing as trying to be too helpful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
> __________________________
>
> Paul Novitski
> Juniper Webcraft Ltd.
> http://juniperwebcraft.com
>
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