I'm sorry but i'm going to put my 2 pence worth in. The site I build use a H1 for the logo, then a h1 for a title further down the page, using the h1, h2, h3, etc structure and Google seems to love those site the latest lauch has h1, h2 and a h3 in the header and it's on page 1 already after being launched 3 weeks ago. So in terms of following best practive, providing clear text to screen reader and for SEO the use of H tags should be as the W3C advises.
_____ From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Yuval Ararat Sent: 16 October 2009 13:11 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: More than one H1? (was [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest) I am not sure that a page with multiple important subject does not exist. so IA wise and semantic wise this is not a must. google wise it is. On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jason Grant <ja...@flexewebs.com> wrote: Tim, Well done for reading the spec - it's always a must. However, Google came after the HTML4.01 spec and what Google wants we give it - so the 'only one H1 per page' guideline comes from SEO best practices as well as general semantics and IA best practices. So the spec does not tell you to use one H1 per page, but the spec is not the be all and end all of guidelines. Thanks, Jason On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tim White <tjameswh...@gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Marilyn Langfeld <m...@langfeldesigns.com> wrote: ... H1 is reserved for the title of the page. In a document, at least, there's only one title, while there may be many first level headings. ... So H1 is, IMHO, not the first level header, but the T1, or main title of the page. A logo is never, IMHO again, the title of the page. Let's look at what the specification says; "A heading element briefly describes the topic of the section it introduces. Heading information may be used by user agents, for example, to construct a table of contents for a document automatically. There are six levels of headings in HTML with <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-H1> H1 as the most important and <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-H6> H6 as the least. Visual browsers usually render more important headings in larger fonts than less important ones." <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.5> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.5.5 Nowhere does it say that H1s are for page titles or that there can be only 1 per page. In fact, the example shows two being used. ~ Tim ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ******************************************************************* -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ******************************************************************* No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.20/2439 - Release Date: 10/15/09 20:39:00 ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *******************************************************************
