It should be like this: <div id="top">Top Header...</div> <ul> <li>blah blah blah</li> <li>blah blah blah</li> </ul> <a href="#top">back to top</a>
And, fyi: "Note that in XHTML 1.0, the name attribute of these elements is formally deprecated, and will be removed in a subsequent version of XHTML." http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/ -------- Anansi Web Development Web Design and Development | Search Engine Optimisation and Marketing | Social Media Integration | Web Application Development http://www.anansi.com.au/ Web Development Blog http://eisabainyo.net/weblog -------- --- On Fri, 5/3/10, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org> wrote: From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org <wsg@webstandardsgroup.org> Subject: WSG Digest To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Received: Friday, 5 March, 2010, 12:55 AM ********************************************************************* WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST ********************************************************************* From: c...@fagandesign.com.au Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:33:22 +1100 Subject: IE8 bug? Hi all, I have run in to what seems to be an IE8 bug - IE8 doesn't respond to internal links (as in, same page links) on a demo site I'm working on....yet IE6 and IE7 do! eg. <a id="top" name="top"></a> <ul> Â Â <li>blah blah blah</li> Â Â <li>blah blah blah</li> </ul> <a href="#top">back to top</a> I tried Googling and looking back through old posts from WSG but can't find anything.... Has anyone come across this issue before? (and better yet, come across a fix??) Regards, Christian Fagan Fagan Design fagandesign.com.au[1] Links: ------ [1] http://www.fagandesign.com.au ********************************************************************* From: Micky Hulse <mickyhulse.li...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:47:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 bug? > Has anyone come across this issue before? (and better yet, come across a > fix??) Not sure if this will help, but I suggest using a div instead of an href: <div id="top">...</div> <ul><li>blah blah blah</li><li>blah blah blah</li></ul> I have not used named anchors in ages. Hope you get it figured! M ********************************************************************* From: John Unsworth <john.unswo...@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:57:22 +1100 Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 bug? Hi Christian, You will find some info about this on the Sitepoint HTML reference pages, http://reference.sitepoint.com/html/a/href , read down that page and there is some information about requiring a href reference in the anchor link for IE. Also as I understand it you don't really need id= and name=, use one or the other - they complete the same purpose, although I'm just reading this information from a book and haven't checked the specification per se. Cheers, John Unsworth On 4 March 2010 12:33, <c...@fagandesign.com.au> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have run in to what seems to be an IE8 bug - IE8 doesn't respond to > internal links (as in, same page links) on a demo site I'm working on.... yet > IE6 and IE7 do! > > eg. > <a id="top" name="top"></a> > <ul> > <li>blah blah blah</li> > <li>blah blah blah</li> > </ul> > <a href="#top">back to top</a> > > I tried Googling and looking back through old posts from WSG but can't fi nd > anything.... > > Has anyone come across this issue before? (and better yet, come across a > fix??) > > Regards, > > Christian Fagan > Fagan Design > fagandesign.com.au > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ******************************************************************* ********************************************************************* From: Kat <k...@t-tec.com.au> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:37:02 +1030 Subject: Re: [WSG] Background music on web pages Lesley Lutomski wrote: > Thanks to all who have replied. > > As far as "don't do it" goes, you're preaching to the converted here, > but I don't seem to be able to get the message through to my clients. > > The clients in question are a committee (first problem!), who all say > "Oh, I know nothing about computers/the internet" but at the same time > refuse to be guided. Referring them to usability articles is a > non-starter, because they'll just not look at them. I've tried reducing > the arguments to very basic, non-technical issues, but my powers of > persuasion are apparently lacking. > > Given that I can't afford to turn down the work, I'll take on board the > points folk have made here and promise to do the least-awful job on it I > can! > > Thanks again. > > Lesley Are they business people? Then use business language. Talk about their marketing/advertising/ and the budget and the daily work, 24/7, at achieving their brand/image that goes on by everyone at the organisation. That if someone has a bad experience, it has a bigger then expected negative impact: they will tell 20 people. That background music is an instant bad experience, and will undo at least half of the work they have achieved so far. Give it to them in numbers, so they know it is a monetary loss. Kat ********************************************************************* From: "Thierry Koblentz" <thierry.koble...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:54:43 -0800 Subject: RE: [WSG] IE8 bug? > I have run in to what seems to be an IE8 bug - IE8 doesn't respond to internal links > (as in, same page links) on a demo site I'm working on....yet IE6 and IE7 do! > > eg. > <a id="top" name="top"></a> > <ul> > <li>blah blah blah</li> > <li>blah blah blah</li> > </ul> > <a href="#top">back to top</a> > I tried Googling and looking back through old posts from WSG but can't find anything.... > > Has anyone come across this issue before? (and better yet, come across a fix??) I ran into a couple of issues in IE (6 though) when using "top". But in any case, if all you need is to jump to the top of the page you should be able to do it without a named anchor. Did you try something as simple as this: <ul> <li>blah blah blah</li> <li>blah blah blah</li> </ul> <a href="#">back to top</a> -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | articles and tutorials www.ez-css.org | ultra light CSS framework ********************************************************************* From: "Chakravarthy, Srikanth" <srikanth.chakravar...@misys.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:17:02 +0530 Subject: Rendering mismatch in IE6 and IE7 Hi, I am working on a project that uses JSF with Richfaces and Ajax4jsf. All the pages were developed using IE7.0 and they appear properly on it. The same page is rendered a bit differently on the other browsers such as Firefox, Chrome. But the discrepancy is only w.r.t to the borders that are inherited. During development, I had referred to certain sites suggested on this forum too and was convinced that IE6 had some glaring bugs in rendering using CSS properties and IE7 is the way forward. Now due to some constraints, we need to make these pages compatible with IE6. Here comes the trouble. The controls on the pages are not in the expected places. The panels sit on top of one another and other such mismatches. Now is there any way I can identify what CSS properties are not behaving properly in IE6? Is there any way that I can make the pages compatible with IE6? Any reference link or suggestion will be of immense help. Thanks and Regards, Srikanth "Misys" is the trade name for Misys plc (registered in England and Wales). Registration Number: 01360027. Registered office: One Kingdom Street, Londo n W2 6BL, United Kingdom. For a list of Misys group operating companies ple ase go to http://www.misys.com/corp/About Us/misys operating companies.html . This email and any attachments have been scanned for known viruses using multiple scanners. This email message is intended for the named recipient o nly. It may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the named rec ipient of this email please notify us immediately and do not copy it or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. This em ail does not constitute the commencement of legal relations between you and Misys plc. Please refer to the executed contract between you and the relev ant member of the Misys group for the identity of the contracting party wit h which you are dealing. ********************************************************************* From: "Thierry Koblentz" <thierry.koble...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:58:22 -0800 Subject: RE: [WSG] Rendering mismatch in IE6 and IE7 > I am working on a project that uses JSF with Richfaces and Ajax4jsf. > > All the pages were developed using IE7.0 and they appear properly on it. > The same page is rendered a bit differently on the other browsers such as Firefox, > Chrome. But the discrepancy is only w.r.t to the borders that are inherited. > > During development, I had referred to certain sites suggested on this forum too and > was convinced that IE6 had some glaring bugs in rendering using CSS properties and > IE7 is the way forward. > > Now due to some constraints, we need to make these pages compatible with IE6. Here > comes the trouble. The controls on the pages are not in the expected places. The panels > sit on top of one another and other such mismatches. > Now is there any way I can identify what CSS properties are not behaving properly in IE6? Do you have IE6 with the dev toolbar installed? That would help you debug the issues. > Is there any way that I can make the pages compatible with IE6? Can you post a link to your page? -- Regards, Thierry www.tjkdesign.com | articles and tutorials www.ez-css.org | ultra light CSS framework ********************************************************************* From: David Hucklesby <huckle...@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:42:16 -0800 Subject: Re: [WSG] Rendering mismatch in IE6 and IE7 On 3/3/10 9:47 PM, Chakravarthy, Srikanth wrote: [...] > > Now is there any way I can identify what CSS properties are not > behaving properly in IE6? Is there any way that I can make the pages > compatible with IE6? > > > > Any reference link or suggestion will be of immense help. > The first thing to realize is that IE 6 has partial support for CSS 1, while IE 7 introduced some support for CSS 2, particularly the extended selectors. You may find the Sitepoint CSS reference useful for seeing which selectors and properties IE 6 actually supports: http://reference.sitepoint.com/css Doubtless you have heard complaints about the colorful bugs with which this 8+ year old browser is so well endowed. The bugs are quite well documented, but tend to pop up in unexpected places. As Thierry has already suggested, asking a specific question about a publicly available page will likely provide you with better answers than mine. Cordially, David -- ********************************************************************* From: "Jon @ The PixelForge" <jon.war...@thepixelforge.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:09:55 +0000 Subject: Re: [WSG] Rendering mismatch in IE6 and IE7 In addition to other advice, you may find that starting with a blank css sheet and adding in each instruction one by one, and seeing how each has an effect on the content. Ok, seems obvious, but this will a) provide you with information on how each instruction is working, either adversely or by design b) enabling you to learn more how and why certain bugs appear, speeding up development and debugging in future projects and c) can provide insight to redundant instructions, again speeding up future dev and debug time. As much of a PIA as this may seem, it can be quite interesting, and considering you've already written the css, it needn't take long. Admittedly, mostly obvious and I apologise if anything appears condescending - that is most certainly not my intent. I just think its worth bearing in mind some good old fashioned detective work can work wonders. In addition, to add weight to others suggestions, using browser specific debugging tools in conjunction with this approach has saved me time (and hair!) in the past. Regards, Jon Warner On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:42 PM, David Hucklesby <huckle...@gmail.com> wrote : > On 3/3/10 9:47 PM, Chakravarthy, Srikanth wrote: > [...] >> >> Now is there any way I can identify what CSS properties are not >> behaving properly in IE6? Is there any way that I can make the pages >> compatible with IE6? >> >> >> >> Any reference link or suggestion will be of immense help. >> > > The first thing to realize is that IE 6 has partial support for CSS 1, > while IE 7 introduced some support for CSS 2, particularly the extended > selectors. You may find the Sitepoint CSS reference useful for seeing > which selectors and properties IE 6 actually supports: > > http://reference.sitepoint.com/css > > Doubtless you have heard complaints about the colorful bugs with which > this 8+ year old browser is so well endowed. The bugs are quite well > documented, but tend to pop up in unexpected places. As Thierry has > already suggested, asking a specific question about a publicly available > page will likely provide you with better answers than mine. > > Cordially, > David > -- > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org > ******************************************************************* > > ************************************************************** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ************************************************************** ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *******************************************************************
