@patrick yes pinning tasks is an example of what does not need to be done -
flourish added by microsoft for extra flare :) - bet that was the result of
some blue sky idea in some board room / focus group; more reason for ie 9ish
being on xp (50% users)

@mike some of the eloquence/stats I was looking for
 - S



On 29 September 2010 17:06, Foskett, Mike <mike.fosk...@uk.tesco.com> wrote:

> Strange,
>
> My answer would've been not yet.
> Too many differences in supported video codecs cross-browser.
> A bit of a mare in production unless you've a transcoding service on your
> media server.
>
> For the maximum audience:
> Flash 8 preferably (9 if full screen is a requirement), ON2 VP6 Codec, with
> HTML5 H.264+AAC+MP4 for apple products as back-up.
> Which is still one too many formats, not to forget that H.264 is licensed.
>
> The next generation will be H.264 in Flash v9.3 plus. One format albeit
> licensed for big and small alike woohoo!
>
> HTML5 video will only be truly usable when browsers and devices all support
> at least one "universal" codec.
> Probably webM, but we'll have to wait at least a 2 years for that.
>
> That's my tuppence worth anyway.
>
>
> regards.
>
> mike foskett
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
> Behalf Of Jason Arnold
> Sent: 29 September 2010 14:41
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS and h264 vs Flash
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:06 AM, cat soul <cats...@thinkplan.org> wrote:
> >Flash offers a one-stop shopping
> > tool, and as has been said, most/many people have the flash plug-in, so
> > playback is more or less assured across the intertoobs.
>
> Except when dealing with the Mobile market where Flash isn't universal
> and if you care at all if your content plays on the iProducts (Pad,
> Pod, Phone which does have a decent marketshare in mobile devices)
> then you'll be looking at alternatives in addition to Flash anyway.
>
> > So my question is: can CSS and/or Javascript plus *some* codec of
> > movie/sound content replace Flash?
>
> Yes.
>
> If you encode in Ogg and H.264 and include a Flash player fallback for
> IE < 9 then your video would be available in all the popular browsers
> and available on all mobile devices that can play video from websites.
>  There's already many templates out there that includes all this
> (minus the video encodings obviously).
>
>
>
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