meghan wrote:

I am trying to catch up on the current state of Web Services for use in a
project at my workplace. We would very likely be using JMS in front of our
actual service in order to provide asynchronous call ability, and
guaranteed (almost) delivery of messages. It's very possible that we'll be
getting messages from .NET and Java clients, so we like the idea of having
WSIF hide the implementation from the client.


it seems that future will be around doc/literal and message driven services that use SOAP 1.2 and are described in WSDL 1.1 (later WSDL2)

what will be the API for Java - hard to say but it *should* not matter as you can choose APIs you like and all should still work: AXIS 1.2, AXIS2, WSIF on top of AXIS and other projects such as mine XSUL2 or XFire to name few ...

However, my partner and I have been struggling to figure out where Web
Services seems to be heading right now.

i do not think there is one simple answer to that and i doubt anybody knows it ...

I read through several months'
worth of the WSIF archives (that's where I found your name), but I'm still
confused. It seemed in one message, that JAX-RPC would have an effect on
whether or not WSIF is in the future, but I can't understand why you
couldn't have one without the other--I'm guessing I misunderstood the
comment.


JAX-RPC 2.x in future hopefully will provide more WSDL-driven and doc/literal API not RPC (maybe they should change the name ...)

We're using WSAD 5.1.1 here and are quite confused as to why they don't
incorporate WSIF into their wizards--after all, IBM certainly has people on
staff who would know how to do that! Are they chasing some new way of
doing it, that would be different from WSIF? Or did they just decide they
didn't care for another layer??


i have no idea what WSAD 5.1x is doing or planning to do.

It looks like none of the Apache WS projects have had new releases in quite
some time (I know, it looks like Axis is getting close, but from our
standpoint it appears to have stalled; since we're not on the mailing
lists... maybe it's flying and we just don't know it).

It looks like you're quite a busy guy, so I don't want to take much of your
time, but if you could help me get a grip on the basic idea of what's going
on, or at least point me to information that I can read to get educated, I
would be extremely appreciative! I've poked through the Axis and WSIF
archives for the past year or so, plus the WSIF and Axis web pages, plus
the Axis wiki, and run many Google searches but I'm just not finding the
information I'm looking for. I suspect it's just in people's heads right
now...


what is exactly the information that you look for? just send your questions!

WSIF code is open source and freely available and we do accept patches and nominate/accept commiters if they are interested in improving it.

i wish it was going faster (and that i had more time) however we will make soon a new WSIF release to coincide with AXIS 1.2 final.

i am interested in looking what could be future of WSIF and if you ave ideas please send them to wsif-dev and help us to make them happen ;-)

thanks,

alek

--
The best way to predict the future is to invent it - Alan Kay



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