Hi zog,

Thanks for the feedback.

I feel that the advantage of WSIF is that it can
generate SOAP messages directly from WSDL, in contrast
to Axis which requires the extra step of WSDL2Java to
be executed. And I don't believe Apache SOAP has any
WSDL support at all. WSIF also has a very nice
interface - (again in comparison to Axis) no stubs
strictly required, and no deployment - a distinct
advantage.

In regards to the parsing of the message, I don't
believe your comment below is the case. The reason for
this is that I have a vanilla Web Server (no Axis no
Apache SOAP) firing back a SOAP response to the
DynamicInvoker, I can see that the response
information has been taken out, and returned (in the
WSIFMessage variable) correctly. Therefore the WSIF
piece _must_ do some level of parsing of the SOAP
message.

Does this make sense?

Best Regards,
Brian

--- Jacques-Olivier Goussard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> It's not the first time someone asks for this. What
> I
> don't get is why you use WSIF if you need to access
> the SOAP message ? WSIF power and flexibility is -
> IMHO -
> based on provider agnosticity. If you know you're
> going
> to access a SOAP-enabled service, why don't use
> directly Axis (which BTW provides you with what you
> need) ?
> WSIF core does not parse the SOAP message, AXIS (or
> Apache SOAP, depending on the chosen provider) does
> it.
>        /zog
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:53 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Newbie Q about SOAP responses
> > 
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I'm a newbie getting involved with WSIF, and I'm
> > trying out the DynamicInvoker sample (cool!). What
> I
> > would like to know is it possible to access the
> "raw"
> > SOAP response from the WSIFMessage variable
> filled-in
> > (after a call to executeRequestResponseOperation)
> - or
> > is it possible at all?
> > 
> > My question is based on the assumption that the WS
> > returns a SOAP response and the WSIF core will
> parse
> > this to retrieve the requested information. I
> believe
> > this is correct or ?
> > 
> > Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Brian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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