What is the additional work to be done here, Please explain in detail so that
I will
get my application working.

Thanks very much for all the help.
Srinivas.
:*)

velidandas wrote:
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeff Greif [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 18 May 2007 23:04
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Need help invoking complex web services
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, Alek is correct.  You have to do some additional work to 
>> make use 
>> of WSIF dynamic invocation on complex types, but it can be done.
> 
> If there is some additional work to be done, how can it be said that WSIF
> itself supports
> dynamic Invocation with complex types.
> 
> Could you please provide some sample with what you mean by the additional
> work to
> be done
> 
> Thanks.
>> 
>> My company has been using WSIF as infrastructure for a user-interface 
>> provider for web services for several years, using dynamic invocation 
>> based on the WSDL and the schemas it references.  A wide variety of 
>> complex types (but not all) are handled. WSIF is a small but 
> 
> here agian what does it mean by "but not all", Could you please 
> clarify the problem here...
> 
>> significant 
>> piece of a larger system, which gathers the input to the web 
>> services, 
>> invokes the services, presents the output, and allows the 
>> data from the 
>> outputs to be used to construct inputs to other services.   The 
>> automatically-generated user interfaces can be delivered on 
>> the desktop 
>> or various mobile devices, and customized and beautified with 
>> additional 
>> metadata (beyond the schemas) to set up the user-driven 
>> chaining of the 
>> services and present the WS inputs and outputs in a way more suitable 
>> for end users.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> Aleksander Slominski wrote:
>> > Jeff Greif wrote:
>> >   
>> >> The remarks about WSIF supporting dynamic invocation with complex
>> >> types are incorrect.  This question has been asked and 
>> answered many
>> >> times on this list.  Please check the archives.
>> >>     
>> > the issues for discussion is "support" - if one expects automatic
>> > handling of
>> > all of XML schemas types in WSIF that is not what WSIF does 
>> but it does
>> > help with mapping Java data (or just XML possibly that follows XS
>> > - that is dynamic case) and sending XML to a service 
>> identified by WSDL.
>> >
>> > in my experience dynamic case is typically encountered in 
>> two situations:
>> > 1. some kind of user interface: it needs to parse WSDL and 
>> present input
>> > to user
>> >     then it can use WSIF to send that input to that service
>> > 2. workflows or other systems that need to invoke services 
>> described in WSDL
>> >     but those systems do not generate input they just do 
>> its processing and
>> >     they are less dynamic (and can handle less of varied 
>> inputs) more
>> > processing they do.
>> >
>> > my .01c
>> >
>> > best,
>> >
>> > alek
>> >   
>> >> On 5/17/07, Velidanda Srinivas 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>     
>> >>> WSIF could not be used for dynamic invocation using complex Types.
>> >>>
>> >>> WSIF does not support complex types in dynamic invocation.
>> >>>
>> >>> Try and see XSUL, if works.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please let me know if you get working with XSUL.
>> >>>
>> >>>       
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: Tim Hamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>>> Sent: 14 May 2007 19:20
>> >>>> To: [email protected]
>> >>>> Subject: Need help invoking complex web services
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We're trying to create a Java application capable of
>> >>>> consuming any web service dynamically given only the WSDL.
>> >>>> The only problem is that we can't figure out how to invoke a
>> >>>> service that takes a complex type as a parameter without
>> >>>> first generating code. Is it possible to use WSIF to do such
>> >>>> an invocation without generating code, and if so, could
>> >>>> someone please send us some hint on how to do so?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> thanks,
>> >>>> Tim
> 
> 
> Aleksander Slominski wrote:
>> 
>> Jeff Greif wrote:
>>> The remarks about WSIF supporting dynamic invocation with complex
>>> types are incorrect.  This question has been asked and answered many
>>> times on this list.  Please check the archives.
>> the issues for discussion is "support" - if one expects automatic
>> handling of
>> all of XML schemas types in WSIF that is not what WSIF does but it does
>> help with mapping Java data (or just XML possibly that follows XS
>> - that is dynamic case) and sending XML to a service identified by WSDL.
>> 
>> in my experience dynamic case is typically encountered in two situations:
>> 1. some kind of user interface: it needs to parse WSDL and present input
>> to user
>>     then it can use WSIF to send that input to that service
>> 2. workflows or other systems that need to invoke services described in
>> WSDL
>>     but those systems do not generate input they just do its processing
>> and
>>     they are less dynamic (and can handle less of varied inputs) more
>> processing they do.
>> 
>> my .01c
>> 
>> best,
>> 
>> alek
>>>
>>> On 5/17/07, Velidanda Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> WSIF could not be used for dynamic invocation using complex Types.
>>>>
>>>> WSIF does not support complex types in dynamic invocation.
>>>>
>>>> Try and see XSUL, if works.
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know if you get working with XSUL.
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Tim Hamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> > Sent: 14 May 2007 19:20
>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>> > Subject: Need help invoking complex web services
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > We're trying to create a Java application capable of
>>>> > consuming any web service dynamically given only the WSDL.
>>>> > The only problem is that we can't figure out how to invoke a
>>>> > service that takes a complex type as a parameter without
>>>> > first generating code. Is it possible to use WSIF to do such
>>>> > an invocation without generating code, and if so, could
>>>> > someone please send us some hint on how to do so?
>>>> >
>>>> > thanks,
>>>> > Tim
>>>> >
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