The problem I think that can occur is when you use, for example, JTAlert to
tell you who you need.If you enter a QSO but don't get a QSL I think JTAlert
will still show it as a B4 entry which, if you don't have B4's being show, you
won't see on JTAlert call slots. So if you confirm, but your partner does not,
then you may never recognize them again.
One could argue that's JTAlert's responsibility and perhaps JTAlert should
check the LOTW/eQSL status to say "hmmm...not confirmed so still show
them".I'll ask Laurie about that one.
de Mike W9MDB
From: Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X: How to handle using RR73 as a final message
On 20/07/2017 14:27, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> although if autoseq detects the RR73 as the prompt to log means they
> likely have logged it already which I think is not what should be done.
HI Mike,
there seems to be an aversion to logging a QSO before your QSO partner
can, I don't see why this is a constraint. I have no problem with a one
way QSOs going into my log, if I don't get a confirmation for it then
there is no problem. Maybe in these days of electronic confirmations I
am biased by the zero cost of the above strategy.
Surely logging one side of a QSO as complete and sending sufficient
replies allowing a QSO partner to do the same are not the same thing,
they are different events in time. I would happily log a QSO at the
point I decide to send the first R whether it be R+report or RRR, but
that does not obviate me of the need to finish the QSO allowing my QSO
partner to do the same.
If I sent QSL cards for every QSO, I would probably un-check the send
paper QSL option in my log for QSOs where I didn't have confirmation of
a complete QSO, i.e. no RRR copied. That doesn't stop my QSO partner
sending me a card to which I will then reply since unbeknownst to me he
actually had a R+report from me and the QSO was complete two-way. If he
sends a speculative card then he will not have my report and also I
couldn't care less about sending him a card if he happens to guess the
report correctly, it is down to him if he feels that he needs to cheat
to get my QSL card.
It seems to me that the practise of sending RR73 is in line with the
above and clearly works when used judiciously when propagation allows
extra confidence of likely receipt.
One station logging a QSO is not the same as a QSO being complete. A QSO
is complete when *both stations* can log the QSO and if they do, and
only then, both may claim credit for the complete QSO.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
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