Hi Chuck.

 

The issue of ‘directional CQs’ applies at both ends: when I’m calling “CQ EU”, 
it can be annoying to be called by a slew of non-Europeans, especially if they 
all pile up on ‘my’ frequency, obscuring any weak EU sigs under an unsightly 
red blob.   With JTDX, we have an option for “Strict directional CQ operation” 
that (I think!) does not autorespond to callers from the wrong areas.

 

On the other hand, the original FT8 protocol only gives us two characters to 
play with in our standard CQ calls – not enough room for, say, “CQ NOT NA” or 
“CQ AF LP ONLY” except as un-clickable free-text messages.   It would be 
possible to alternate between various areas in successive CQs e.g. CQ EU then 
CQ AF then CQ AS … but it’s awkward to do quickly (especially while fending off 
unwanted callers) and confusing for callers.  Impracticable, really.

 

In practice, as with legacy modes, even polite and compliant DXers will 
sometimes monitor a CQer calling another area and, if they are not getting a 
response, try calling them speculatively “to let them know they are getting 
out” or “just for a quicky” – and they may be lucky.   So blocking calls and 
responses to other areas may prove unpopular.

 

Showing a warning/confirmation message, though, would work better I think – 
something like “He’s calling CQ EU but you are not in Europe.  Do you really 
want to respond?  Click here to call him anyway …”

 

The program would need to be told or calculate our areas, and “CQ DX” would be, 
let’s say, challenging to interpret programmatically.

 

73,

Gary   ZL2iFB

 

From: Chuck Furman <chuck.fur...@gmail.com> 
Sent: 08 October 2018 10:19
To: pence.b...@gmail.com
Cc: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] New feature request

 

Gary Hinson and Bill Pence,

You guys both got my point! By the time your brain picks someone to call, and 
your fingers click the mouse, the screen updates. The result is that you end up 
clicking on the wrong row. FT8 is fast. You only have 15 seconds to think. 
Before you even realize what you have done, at least one call has gone out. 
Let’s be honest, many of us multi-task. Some people work multiple bands at the 
same time, or operate FT8 and talk on VHF/UHF, or watch TV, or check out the 
FT8 Facebook groups, etc. One mistaken mouse click can result in multiple calls 
to someone who is not interested in contacting you.

My preferred solution is a way to disable TX when you click on a CQ that is 
directed to DX, NA, EU, ZL, etc. I’m sure there are other good solutions. 

Chuck
KG6PH

 

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 at 16:01, Bill Pence <pence.b...@gmail.com 
<mailto:pence.b...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Nope. He says as he clicked, the display scrolled, so the call he intended was 
now above his mouse pointer. 

 

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018, 3:53 PM Gary McDuffie <mcduf...@ag0n.net 
<mailto:mcduf...@ag0n.net> > wrote:



> On Oct 6, 2018, at 19:59, Chuck Furman <chuck.fur...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chuck.fur...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> Several times I accidentally clicked on a station calling CQ DX or some other 
> directed CQ. This often happens just as the Band Activity window updates.  I 
> click on a CQ, but as the window updates, I find that I've actually clicked 
> on another station who was calling CQ DX.

Sorry, I don’t get it.  The line is printed all at once.  DX appears at the 
same time CQ appears on the same line on the same screen, so why are you 
clicking on it?  That action seems only possible when the station changes his 
mind and sends his second CQ as CQ DX after a prior unqualified CQ.

Gary - AG0N

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