Gary and Gary,

But I want to stop transmitting near the start of a cycle, and still see
decodes from that cycle. As you point out, deselecting Enable doesn't do
that.

The problem arises when I don't know whether I want to continue
transmitting until I see the decodes from a cycle. For examples: I called a
station off frequency, and I see they didn't hear me and I'd rather not
call again. Or, I'm calling CQ, see no replies, and I don't want to CQ
again. It takes me a second or two to look at the decode list and decide I
want to listen instead of transmit. So autosequence has me transmitting a
little into the start of the next cycle, but I want to stop and see decodes
in that cycle instead.

Both of those examples could be handled better and faster by options within
WSJT-X, so if that were implemented with checkboxes I'd be pretty happy.
(Already happens with on-frequency calls to a CQing station.) Which might
be easier than modifying the decode code to handle starting late in a
cycle, I don't know.

73, Paul K6PO

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 1:43 PM Gary Hinson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Friends,
>
>
>
> Try deselecting *Enable Tx* prior to the start of the next cycle instead
> of hitting the *Halt Tx* button.  Think of the *Halt Tx* button as a big
> angry red emergency stop button that slams the brakes on and drops
> everything.  It drops the anchor.
>
>
>
> Deselecting Enable TX is not so abrupt, and not so tight on timing: if you
> deselect it at any point in a transmission, the remainder of that
> transmission continues to the end as normal but your *next* transmission
> doesn’t happen.  It’s more elegant.  More refined.  Less screeching of
> tyres.
>
>
>
> Find this and other pragmatic tips in the FT8 Operating Guide
> <http://www.g4ifb.com/FT8_Hinson_tips_for_HF_DXers.pdf>.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Gary   ZL2iFB
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* WB5JJJ <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* 18 January 2019 10:12
> *To:* WSJT software development <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Short Tx inhibits decode...
>
>
>
> I've noticed that as well.  Been this way for many versions back.  Once
> the Tx cycle has been initiated (i.e. odd or even Tx has started), and if
> you then click Halt Tx, the radio will go to receive, the WF will show the
> signals, but none are decoded for the aborted Tx cycle.  At the start of
> the next cycle, all is normal.
>
>
>
> WB5JJJ - George
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>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 3:01 PM Paul Kube <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
> If I cancel my own transmission right at the beginning of a cycle, I see
> no decodes at all for that cycle.
>
>
>
> For example, say I'm CQing on even cycles. After a couple, I decide I want
> to stop CQing if I don't get any replies, so I hit Halt Tx as soon as I see
> the list of decodes from a just-finished odd cycle. Maybe I am transmitting
> for a second or two into the adjacent even cycle; but there are never any
> decodes from it at all even when lots of signals are present in the
> waterfall.
>
>
>
> Naively, it seems to me that this doesn't need to happen. I often see FT8
> decodes for stations that start late -- as much as 4 seconds late -- in a
> cycle. So why does missing the first second or two prevent decoding
> anything?
>
>
>
> If this could be changed, it would be nice. A few of those wasted 15
> seconds add up!
>
>
>
> Thanks, and 73,
>
>
>
> Paul K6PO
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