Hi Steve,

Thanks for the suggestion…do you think there’s a way to attach a number to the 
visual representation that appears under “cumulative”? Alternatively, can it be 
broken down into individual numbers for each of the 50 hz signals that appear 
across the passband?

Actually, I’ve been using cumulative, and I think that’s what got me thinking 
about alternate data mining techniques. If one considers two parallel grid 
cells, one might be pretty dim while the other might be quite bright. At some 
place in the source code, the dim cell should be translating some number x into 
a certain level of pixel activation, while the bright cell is translating some 
number y into more pixel activation. And y should be > x…I think. I’d like to 
find numbers x and y (and all the other numbers output in a given time unit.

In my previous life, I did a lot of spectral analysis of organic compounds, and 
we used this type of integration to great use. Every time I look at the 
waterfall and read that part of WSJT-X includes Fourier Transform, I start 
thinking there’s got to be some overlap that could be useful.

But maybe WSJT-X isn’t programmed that way?

I really appreciate the feedback…it keeps me thinking. Thanks!

Joe/WB0CDY

From: Steven Franke via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Reply-To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Friday, February 1, 2019 at 1:36 PM
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Steven Franke <s.j.fra...@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Accessing raw decode data?

Hi Joe,

It sounds to me as if the Cumulative spectrum plot that can be displayed 
underneath the waterfall is exactly what you have described. The Cumulative 
spectrum is the sum of all of the short-term spectra that make up the waterfall 
display. The sum is reset to zero at the beginning of each receive interval.

Make sure that the “Cumulative” option is selected from the dropdown menu at 
the bottom of the waterfall window (just to the right of the color palette 
selection). You can make the Cumulative spectrum occupy a larger fraction of 
the window using the up-down arrows next to the box that is labeled “Spec NN%”, 
where NN will be percentage of the vertical window space that should be used 
for the Cumulative spectrum.

Steve k9an


On Feb 1, 2019, at 1:57 PM, jbozell <jboz...@utk.edu<mailto:jboz...@utk.edu>> 
wrote:

Hi folks,

I’m reposting the gist of my previous question after getting some nice 
suggestions that ultimately didn’t pan out (e. g., thanks to Mike W9MDB for 
leading me to Sonic Visualizer…it was close, but not quite there, and DL4YHF’s 
Spectrum Lab, which is powerful, but for PC only).

At some point during an FT8 decode, I’m assuming that there’s a number or 
library of numbers is generated that is then translated into a visual 
representation – the waterfall spectrum.

Is it possible to tap into the software and download those numbers into Excel 
or similar? It would be interesting, for example, to integrate the value of 
each 15 second x 50 Hz block that makes up the waterfall grid.

Is this possible ? Has someone already done it? Incompatible with the way 
WSJT-X works?

Thanks,

Joe/WB0CDY

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