George, Kyu and others,

 

160m is a right PITA actually because the band plan structure there varies 
wildly by region and many countries have restrictions on what they can access.

 

The digital segment for 160 in at least region 2 and 3 (Americas and 
Asia/Pacific) is actually 1800-1810kHz! Many countries in the Asia Pacific also 
do not have access to the whole band also (HL has 25kHz, JA is not much better, 
VK only has 75kHz etc). In region 1, the band doesn’t even start until 1810kHz 
in many countries. So what to do?

 

Originally I had been researching pushing IARU to assign 1810kHz as an FT8 
watering hole globally. The problem is that Japanese operators can strictly 
only use CW on that band segment. Short of convincing the Japanese equivalent 
of OFCOM/FCC/ACMA to allow JA hams digital modes above 1810kHz that was not 
going to work. For sure there would be some CW resistance to an 1810kHz digital 
signal channel as well. Mind you, in Region 3 there is a lot of resistance to 
going any higher than 1840 as well (at 75kHz there isn’t enough room for what 
we do have today) and going below 1836kHz will certainly eat into the more 
popular section of the CW band (which apart from contests appears to be 
1815-1835kHz). I don’t think it fair to push into what is active prime CW 
territory.

 

Is there a good solution for 160m you might ask? Probably not. Is there some 
sort of case for a regional based approach? Yes. If we can push IARU to raise 
the digital segment up to say 1816kHz (from the current 1800-1810)  in exchange 
perhaps for FT8 QSYing away from 1840kHz completely – is that something to 
consider? 

 

For example, say 1810kHz for FT8 and 1813kHz for FT4, and on 160m (only) allow 
the FT8 frequency to be shared with F/H activity (or perhaps F/H FT8 stays on 
1840?) Is that something that might work? It would maximise the number of 
countries that could access a harmonised single 160m channel (excluding for now 
JA – perhaps they can lobby their regulator?). 

 

Failing that, again consider my earlier comments on 40m about JT65 and JT9  
sharing, in this case on 1836 and put FT4 on 1838 – noting that locks the HL 
and JA  amateurs out of the band? Going near 1815-1830 will cause significant 
anger from the CW community for sure. 1810-1815 – will too but hopefully less 
so.

 

For discussion – not an easy one to solve.

 

Regards,

Grant VK5GR

 

 

 

From: George J. Molnar [mailto:geo...@molnar.tv] 
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2019 10:52 PM
To: WSJT software development
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] [HL2WA] Request of 80m band review for FT4 frequency

 

The bottom 25 kHz of each band generally are used pretty heavily for CW DX, 
with DXpeditions often in the xx30 to xx40 range. I would encourage keeping 
away from that space to avoid conflict.

 

Geo/KF2T

 

 





On May 1, 2019, at 8:36 AM, 이동규 <hl...@naver.com> wrote:

 

Hi, Bill (G4WJS)

 

Thank you for your kind and quick email reply.

 

About 80m band FT4 frequency 3.523MHz and I think Korean DX members are very 
positive.

 

We will respond to your opinions in a short period of time by collecting 
opinions from Korean HAMs.

In addition, we request a review to be able to assign the 60m Band to 1.822 KHz 
or another frequency( ex) 1819 , 1820....)  from 1.800 to 1.825 MHz.

 

de HL2WA ( KYU )

 

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