Well, now I'm coming to believe you're just making a mountain out of an anthill.

1.  First of all, according to a post I saw from K1JT ..... "since June 15, 1983 FCC does NOT require US amateurs to use a CWID with data modes."  I haven't found the FCC statement that confirms that, but at least for now I'll take his word for it.  Out of the millions upon millions of digital QSOs involving hams from the U.S. and other countries I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for not IDing with CW.  Have you?

2.  Secondly, we don't want people sending CW IDs in FT8 at all because it just trashes subsequent transmissions on that same frequency.  Those CW tones you want to send are worse QRM than other FT8 signals.

3.  If it's WSPR you're worried about, why is anyone bothering to use special callsigns for non-contact purposes??  It's purely a propagation indicator where nobody gives a rats butt about special callsigns, and I'd bet that almost anyone with a really weird special callsign also has a legal, more conventional callsign they could use for WSPR.  Please describe a realistic situation where that wouldn't be the case if you disagree.

Dave   AB7E



On 10/21/2019 6:30 PM, David A. Behar wrote:
Hi friends,

Just to clarify, the issue is not the identification interval... rather, the issue is whether _it is possible to identify at all_.

A callsign such as XX0YYYY is compliant withITU Radio Regulations <https://life.itu.int/radioclub/rr/art19.pdf#page=7> (Article 19, 19.68), but as far as I can figure out it's not possible to identify with a callsign of that form using WSJT-X and WSPR (and I think it isn't possible to identify with any of the modes -- not even with the CW ID feature).

Note that ITU regulations explicitly provide for up to _four_ characters after the digit, and it is only the last character which must be a letter. For example, the callsigns K7123X, K7ABCD, and K722AX are all valid callsigns according to the ITU regulations.

Furthermore, even longer callsigns are authorized Article 19 at 19.68A. ("On special occasions, for temporary use, administrations may authorize use of call signs with more than the four characters referred to in No. 19.68.") An example would be K7VERYLONGCALLSIGN -- perfectly compliant with ITU rules "on special occasions for temporary use".

In some jurisdictions under some circumstances a license requires a fraction bar and additional characters after the callsign.

In the U.S. -- and likely everywhere else -- national identification requirements can met by the transmission of the callsign in CW using International Morse Code. Notwithstanding any limitations in the 28-bit digital encoding scheme used for WSJT-X digital modes, a free-form CW ID callsign field would empower all users to perform their station identification duties -- something that is not currently possible with WSJT-X for some callsigns.

David / K7DB



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