This may explain why I see Q65-60A traces with no decodes. When I hear of an update, I will definitely try to upload it. I am not sure it is possible here, but perhaps in the middle of the night when the service is not so busy I might have a chance ;-)  Looking forward to hearing when it is available!  MNI TNX and VY 73, Lance

On 10/19/2021 20:07, Chris Deacon via wsjt-devel wrote:
Hi Joe,
Conrad may know more than I do, but the short answer is yes, Lance has been 
making QSOs with his compound call despite issue #3, and yes, he does have some 
intermittent internet access - he's been on the ON4KST EME chat today, and also 
on email. Whether his internet is good enough to download an installation 
package, I don't know.
73
Chris
G4IFX

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: 19 October 2021 18:56
To: Conrad PA5Y via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Compound call behaviour Q65

Hi Conrad,

What is the status of the FO/W7GJ expedition?  Is Lance making 6m EME QSOs as 
planned?  I am concerned that he may not have adequately tested use of a 
compound callsign in JT65 and Q65 modes with WSJT-X 2.5.0.

We have identified four problems that are likely affecting Lance's operation as 
FO/W7GJ:

1. In JT65 mode, when either MyCall or DxCall is a compound call the 
automatically generated Tx2 message is incorrectly formatted.

2. In Q65 mode, the hashed forms of "MyCall" and "DxCall" are not properly 
initialized on program startup.  If either of these hash codes is received before the corresponding full 
callsign is decoded, the result is displayed as <...>.

3. In Q65 mode the automatically generated messages for Tx4 and Tx5 are "W7GJ PA5Y RRR" and "W7GJ PA5Y 73".  
They should instead be of the form "FO/W7GJ <PA5Y> RRR" and "FO/W7GJ <PA5Y> 73".

4. In Q65 mode, decodes of type "q3" are not produced for messages containing a 
compound or nonstandard callsign.

In spite of defect #1, JT65 QSOs can be completed in the usual way, using shorthand 
messages, if you manually edit the Tx2 field to be equal to Tx1 but with an appended 
" OOO".

Defect #2 is annoying but becomes harmless after the full callsign has been 
decoded.

Defects #3 and #4 can cause degraded sensitivity by failing to allow decodes of 
type q3.

These problems have all been fixed, and a version 2.5.1 could be made available 
soon.  But, is there any way to get it to Lance?  Failing that, I think his 
best bet may be to use JT65 while in FO, and whoever sends message Tx2 will 
need to edit it manually to one of the forms

    K1ABC FO/W7GJ OOO
    FO/W7GJ K1ABC OOO

Does all of this make sense to you?

        -- Joe, K1JT

On 10/18/2021 6:09 AM, Conrad PA5Y via wsjt-devel wrote:
Hello team.

Last night I was attempting to work FO/W7GJ on Q65-60A. My question is
about the population of TX4 and TX5.

When I Generate standard messages, I see TX1-3 are correct.

TX1        <FO/W7GJ> PA5Y JO21

TX2         <FO/W7GJ> PA5Y -27

TX3         <FO/W7GJ> PA5Y R-27

However, the compound call is omitted from TX4 and TX5

TX4         W7GJ PA5Y RRR

TX5         W7GJ PA5Y 73

Is this expected behaviour? I can see that it does not affect the
validity of a QSO as all the necessary information has already been
passed. However, I noticed last night the following.

0307  -8  0.0  699 :  FO/W7GJ <...> RRR

Obviously tropo but in this TX4 example the compound call appears to
have been transmitted, whereas in my case above it is not.

Regards

Conrad PA5Y



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