The one thing I have noticed on every dxpedition I've worked over the last year
so....
WSJTX Fox mode bill on an 300Hz offset for channel 1.MSHV will normally be
above 500Hz.
You'll also see MSHV work people calling below 1000Hz.
I can always tell the difference.
And you don't really need Hound mode -- just be prepared to stop the last 73
tranmission (it's definitely not needed for dxpeditions and just causes QRM).
Mike W9MDB
On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 02:31:48 AM CST, Reino Talarmo via
wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Sure, of course nothing what so ever! Mshv should in that case *not* to use it
on the standard frequencies and when they are just using multifrequency, but
not F/H protocol. Otherwise we gain nothing at all, hi!
I just wanted to point that it requires everybody to update their wsjt-x
version.
In addition should that specific CQ type extended to cover other situations
where the operator wants to tell what kind of station he is using? Or is it
just because mshv and perhaps other derivate programs don’t follow the
intention of the original F/H protocol? Possible additional cases could be QRP,
POTA, VOTA, etc. a continuously expanding situations where the operator want to
differentiate from the normal users. As already proposed the directed call
gives a possibility for the indication, such as CQ FOX …
Should then the program have an automatic jump into Hound mode, when user
double clicks on that message?
73, Reino OH3mA
From: Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 11:53 PM
To: Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Sam W2JDB <w2...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] CQ Hound mode
and what's to stop mshv from adapting the same call method?
73
Sam W2JDB
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 04:27:38 PM EST, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
Just a minor point, I assume. If that is programmed into wsjt-x, then the
change will not be backwards compatible. The CQ part of the message is actually
a specific pretty long bit string (28 bits, ‘c28’). There could be another bit
string for the CQF, but none of the current versions would present it as the
CQF and the protocol machine would not work. If you feel a need to study it
further, see https://wsjt.sourceforge.io/FT4_FT8_QEX.pdf.
73, Reino OH3mA
From: Scott Armstrong via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 10:53 PM
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Scott Armstrong <aa5am.sc...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] CQ Hound mode
I believe he meant Fox.
CQF <call> <grid>
I like that idea. It would differentiate between F/H and MSHV. But this all
assumes the DX stops and calls CQ ever once in a while.
-Scott AA5AM
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 2:38 PM Gary McDuffie via wsjt-devel
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2023, at 13:08, Pino Zollo via wsjt-devel
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> Just an idea:
>
> When in Hound mode the DX station should call as:
>
> CQH DX0CALL GRID
>
> or
>
> CH DX0CALL GRID
But why? He should only be hound if he is on his published frequency (which
you can determine yourself), and he should never be in hound mode if he is in
the normal FT frequency segment.
Gary - AG0N
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