Hi Uwe,

 

I can understand that the AudioDeviceInfo for the AudioInput or AudioOutput
can become invalid within WSJTX but wouldn't a fresh
QAudioDeviceInfo::availableDevices find it back ?

Note that the soundcard with its explicit name (f.e. "USB Audio CODEC") is
not gone but the device info is gone or the device list is now incorrect.

 

I have observed this in two situations which are easily reproducible on my
end :

 

*       When you connect or disconnect a PNP device (or it goes to sleep
..), a HDMI monitor (with sound) goes on or off
*       At a remote station, when one connects or disconnects with Windows
remote desktop.

 

Again, and this is only for Windows, my suggestion would be to lock the
audio on its explicit device name, and do a fresh search if the device is
lost.

 

My apologies if I have it all wrong .

 

73's Erik

ON4PB

 

From: DG2YCB <dg2...@gmx.de> 
Sent: Monday, 28 April 2025 19:35
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Erik Icket <runninge...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Subject: Feature request: Output audio device
selection

 

Erik,

 

Locking anything in our program doesn't help when this device is no longer
available on OS level. You would then only see something like "... (not
found)".

 

73 de DG2YCB,

Uwe

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Dr. Uwe Risse

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Am 28. April 2025 13:45:54 schrieb Erik Icket via wsjt-devel
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>:

 

May I suggest a different feature update to the audio / soundcard / input -

output device selection logic ?

 

What about the ability to lock the selection for the input / output

soundcard ?

 

This to prevent WSJTX losing the sound device :

- whenever Windows re-assigns / re-enumerates the devices after a USB PNP

device update

- or worse, whenever you connect to a remote desktop where WSJTX is running.

 

Once the audio devices are locked in the settings panel, and would be lost,

WSJTX could go into a retry cycle to recover the devices ...

 

Any thoughts ?

73's Erik

ON4PB

 

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 12:34:31 +0200

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<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >

Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Subject: Feature request: Output audio

 device selection for alert sounds

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Bonjour Olivier,

 

Thanks for your suggestion. I would just like to briefly explain why we have

not done this so far.

Firstly: A second sound card selection menu would not solve the fact that

alerts can only be played if you have at least 2 sound cards on your PC.

Secondly, something like this would only make things more complicated. 

Because then it would have to be programmed in such a way that the settings

in both are mutually exclusive. Imagine Windows resetting all sound card

numbering after a Windows update (or after you have plugged in a new USB

audio device). This would then cause quite a mess, because you have to

correct two sets of settings which are dependent of each other.

Thirdly: Honestly, many OMs don't really understand these technical details

one way or another. That's why the alerts are switched off by default. This

means that those OMs who have never heard of an Audio Alerts feature and

have never reached the Alerts tab in Settings will find the Soundcard menu

in Settings/Audio exactly as it has always been.

 

However, we have now explained the correct audio settings in more detail in

the User Guide for the upcoming ?250501? update. It will be released on

Thursday.

 

Allow me one general comment: My recommendation is that Windows users who

also use JTAlert should use the audio alerts from JTAlert, because JTAlert

does this best. The Alerts feature in WSJT-X Improved was primarily

developed for Linux and macOS, because JTAlert is only available for

Windows, and for those OMs who do not use JTAlert.

 

73 de DG2YCB,

Uwe

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