I expected this answer :)

it's going to be a little difficult, because this way I am asking my consumers
the same "use products that support WS-Policy" and I am dictating their
decisions, which I do not like. However, I know tools are getting better and
better, so this is not going to be an issue in a near feature I hope.

thanks,
Stan

--- Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> WS-Policy. (i.e., use products that support WS-Policy)
> 
> On 4/27/06, Stanley Stanev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Anne,
> >
> > I am with you!
> >
> > first, WS-Policy has limited support yet
> > second, shouldn't define our headers in the WSDL
> >
> > then, do you have an idea todays, how do we expose and in what form the
> > bits
> > that the infrastructure is responsible for implementing (i.e. headers) to
> > the
> > consumers
> >
> > thanks,
> > Stan
> >
> > --- Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Stanley,
> > >
> > > The WSDL should define the bits that the application code needs to know
> > > about. It should *not* define the bits that the infrastructure (e.g.,
> > > handlers and intermediaries) is responsible for implementing (i.e .,
> > > headers). The infrastructure requirements should be defined using
> > WS-Policy.
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, admittedly, WS-Policy is not yet a standard, and it has limited
> > support
> > > by application platforms, but that doesn't change the fact that you
> > really
> > > shouldn't define your headers in the WSDL.
> > >
> > > By the way -- yesterday W3C acknowlegded the submission of the WS-Policy
> > > specifications (WS-Policy and WS-PolicyAttachments).
> > > See http://www.w3.org/Submission/2006/06/ .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/27/06, Ruchith Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Stanley,
> > > >
> > > > On 4/27/06, Stanley Stanev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > yes, that's what I was referring
> > > > >
> > > > > I aksed Axis already, but do you know by chance if I am able to
> > generate
> > > > a WSDL
> > > > > that contains my own implicit headers using Axis 1.x?
> > > >
> > > > I don't think you can generate such a WSDL with Axis 1.x where is
> > > > defines headers to be included .... maybe an Axis 1.x expert can
> > > > please correct me on this of I'm wrong? (CCed to Axis-user list)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ruchith
> >
> > Stanimir Stanev (Stanley)
> > Senior Java Developer
> > Momentum SI, Austin TX
> > http://www.momentumsi.com
> > http://www.stanev.com
> >
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Stanimir Stanev (Stanley)
Senior Java Developer
Momentum SI, Austin TX
http://www.momentumsi.com
http://www.stanev.com

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