I agree we need to make progress on the subsystem/feature split, but as of now, the plugin code is not factored properly, and we need to proceed carefully so we don't destabilize the current builds.
I think we need a coordinated plan for rollout of these features. I would hope the current build feaures will remain until this plan is complete and implemented.
Thanks - Chuck
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| Naci Dai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Arthur Ryman wrote:
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> Will the new build process let us build individual Features? We'd like
> to be able to update the docs and publish them on the Eclipse Help site.
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Every feautes/sun feature described in
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/arch_and_design/subsystems/SubsystemsAndFeatures.html
will be a target (some are but most are not coded yet) under
releng.wtpbuilder/components and can be build individually on demand.
> However, we also need to build docs along with the code to ensure
> clean builds throughout the cycle. We can't wait till the end to
> resolve problems in the doc builds.
Docs will be a part of the continous build for R1.0 the moment they are
included into the top level jst/wst feature.xml
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> Arthur Ryman,
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> *Lawrence Mandel/Toronto/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Naci,
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> >docs are not included in the current build.
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> Does this mean docs will not be included in M8?
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> >They will not be built seperately but included with features.
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> I think it is a mistake to remove the capability to build docs
> separately. Docs are typically written late in the development cycle.
> A separate doc build gives us a way to update the docs after a release
> without updating all of WTP (or WST, JST, or JSF). In addition, the
> PMC discussed this on one of their calls (unfortunately I can't find
> the minutes) where it was agreed that a separate doc build will be
> beneficial to WTP.
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> Lawrence Mandel
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> *Naci Dai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*
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> Committers,
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> In order to improve our builds, there has been some changes. The old
> build releng.builder is now retired. long live the releng.wtpbuilder.
> This will not have a major impact on most committers as releasing and
> maps stay the same with a few changes. You might have noticed that
> there are has been some differences. The work is still in progress so
> please bear with us and provide any feedback you have at:
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> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=108186
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=108259
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> Here is what is different.
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> * Builds are continuous, the results are uploaded to a different
> area (http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/committers). These
> uploads are temporary and will be kept until a build is declared.
> When a build is declared it will be moved to regular builds area
> (http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads). The home page
> is not active but the but the trial builds can be downloaded using
> the links in notice emails (wtp.releng mail list).
> * wtpbuilder separates build scripts removed api-checks and
> performances tests. These will be done on declared builds only.
> This is work in progress.
> * wtpbuilder has the concept of a _component _and a
> _distributable_. A _component _produces a jar from feature
> definitions (such as jst or wst). A distributable is a tested
> set of components (ı.e. wst, jst, jst.tests etc.) which have a
> site where these reports can be reviewed and artifacts can be
> downloaded. Currently, only distributable is wtp.
> * docs are not included in the current build. They will not be
> built seperately but included with features. Any component which
> is not top level, must be included in a top-level feature.
> Currently wtp distributable has 8 top level features (wst,
> wst-sdk, wst.tests, wts.perf.tests and jst equivalent of these)
> (Lawrence can we update the features so that docs get included
> with wst and jst)
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