Kaloyan,

It's okay, we won't bite....  I promise...  :-)

I think the help testing is a great idea and a great way for SAP to start 
to get more involved.  We also have a significant number of defects in the 
resovled state which are awaiting verification.  I think the clean up and 
verification effort there would also be a good task.  And since you are 
most active in J2EE and web services, I would suggest that's where you 
start. 

Chuck, do you want to get with Kaloyan and get him started?  Or does 
anyone else want to grab their offer and run?  Any other suggestions?

Thanks again for your willingness to help out in leiu of full legal 
support from SAP!

John Lanuti
IBM Web Tools Platform Technical Lead, IBM Rational
IBM Software Lab - Research Triangle Park, NC
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Hello, 
Yesterday I have a talk with David and one of the topics that we had is 
that SAP would like to get more involved in the development process of 
WTP. Actually, the stakeholders of WTP in SAP are two teams that we can 
generally call "JEE Toolset team" and "WebServices team". The work of our 
two teams depends on the good work and progress of the WTP project. 
At the moment we are not allowed to contribute people with status 
committers. This is because we are waiting for a global decision in SAP 
wheather SAP employees are permitted to contribute intellectual property 
to open source projects. This decision is very complex and may take some 
more months to be done. Meanwhile, during this time we are willing to help 
the WTP with activities that does not involve IP contribution. One example 
for this is testing. We can help the WTP committer with their testing 
activities that are part of the weekly development process. This way we 
will free resources to the committers, so they can make more progress in 
the development of new features. 
At the beginning we can take over one smoke test scenario, e.g. Java EE 
Smoke Test. After we feel comfortable with the testing procedure and 
evaluate the actual efforts that we spent, we may consider taking over 
additional Test scenarios: WebServices Smoke Test, etc. 
I would like to ask the committers to give their opinion wheather they see 
such kind of help to be appropriate. We feel most comfortable testing Java 
EE and WebServices components, because these are the fields that we work 
in. But, if we consider that we can spend additional resources we can take 
over testing additional components.
Greetings, 
Kaloyan Raev 
Senior Developer 
NW AS JS TOOLS JEE (BG) 
SAP Labs Bulgaria 
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