Here is some usability feedback from Wayne Beaton of The Eclipse Foundation comparing Eclipse/WTP and NetBeans. I opened enhancement requests for each of the points that he makes.
Do we need separate "Static" and "Dynamic" web project wizards? https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173901 Should we create a bundle that includes WTP and Tomcat? https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173923 Xdoclet library setup usability issues https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173925 Provide a graphical editor for web.xml and application.xml https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=173924 - Konstantin -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Beaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 3:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ian Skerrett'; 'Wayne Beaton'; 'Ralph Mueller'; 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jochen Krause'; Jess Garms Subject: RE: WTP and usability NetBeans' UI has some bizarre-ness to it as well. Here are some thoughts about WST: I've always found it annoying that--when a create a 'web' project--I have to choose between a "static web project" and a "dynamic" one. Is the distinction really necessary? This is more of a packaging issue, but I often hear of frustrations that Eclipse doesn't ship an application server. Recommendation: bundle Tomcat. It might be cooler to bundle some of the server-side Equinox stuff... If you choose to use Xdoclet, you need to download an install it. However, this not made clear to the user. It'd be handy if it was either bundled or if there was some mechanism to go and get it. At very least, some guidance from the UI to tell you that you need to do this. NetBeans has a web.xml editor. Frankly, I think it's terrible, but it's better than editing straight XML (especially if the file starts to get large). I think Eclipse would benefit from having even a simple web.xml file editor. The package explorer displays servlet mappings and such, but provides nothing for editing them or adding to them (short of defining them using Xdoclet or editing the web.xml file directly). I realize that having an editor and annotation processing support can result in some weirdness... Bug 152355 has to go away. Even though it's not our/your fault. That's what I have for now. Next week, I'll go through a full exercise of building/deploying a Java EE application with servlets, JSPs, EJBs, and Web Services and should have more to report. Wayne -- Wayne Beaton The Eclipse Foundation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.eclipse.org http://wbeaton.blogspot.com/ http://www.planeteclipse.org/planet/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Milinkovich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: February 7, 2007 3:59 PM > To: 'Ian Skerrett'; Wayne Beaton; 'Ralph Mueller'; 'Bjorn > Freeman-Benson'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jochen Krause > Subject: FW: WTP and usability > > If you could please take a few moments out of your busy day > to give me a couple of pointers on this topic, I would appreciate it. > > > > Mike Milinkovich > > Office: +1.613.224.9461 x228 > > Mobile: +1.613.220.3223 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > From: Jess Garms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:53 PM > To: Mike Milinkovich > Subject: WTP and usability > > > > Mike - during our discussion last week you mentioned WTP's > usability as really hurting Eclipse in comparisons against > Netbeans. I've certainly run across some of WTP's UI > problems, but would like to know if you have any specific > gripes, or if you've run across websites or blogs that call > out some of these problems. > > > > Thanks, > > Jess > > ______________________________________________________________ > _________ > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, > may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its > subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be > confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally > privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the > individual or entity named in this message. If you are not > the intended recipient, and have received this message in > error, please immediately return this by email and then delete it. > _______________________________________________ wtp-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/wtp-dev
