The HEAD build is the right approach for checking normal changes before committing to an I-build, which I think is what Helen assumed you were asking about.
But sounds like you are asking about large changes to the build script itself, and/or feature organization. So ... if you agree to update the wiki with some new sections on what ever knowledge you gain (or confirm) then I'll provide some starting points ... :) For both cases below, I suggest you have a build that's working "normally" then introducing small changes to confirm it is doing what you expect, before truly making large changes (since the large changes are likely to break things by themselves). To test changes to the build script itself, (that is, changes in releng.wtpbuilder) set checkout.builder.clean=false (best place is in your local copy of properties, in a file named checkout.properties. Then it no longer get's a fresh copy of releng.wtpbuilder, but just uses what ever is in the releng.wtpbuilder directory in the projectBuilders directory ... in the project you are running, so for example, <BUILD_HOME>/projectBuilders/wtp-R3.0-I/releng.wtpbuilder (so, that's where you'd put your "local" changes). I use this quite a bit to confirm changes to a build, so pretty sure it works as desired. Another option that might help with "massive changes", but I've used and tested less, so you'll need to verify it's working as expected ... you can set export USE_LOCAL_MAPS=true in your commonVariations.shsource. As it sounds, and as is documented, it then uses the local copies of your maps, so you can edit in what ever version of something you want. For example, you could have your "massive changes" in a special branch, say if 'tempOne' then you'd just put 'tempOne' in the map file where the CVS version normally goes. And, if you have changes more massive than either of those can handle! then I think you'd have to have your own copy if the repository and change things to work off that repository (Naci did that at lot at the beginning of WTP! :) If you want to get a snapshot of the repository to start with, one way is to start with one of the weekly snapshots at http://archive.eclipse.org/arch/ (I'm sure there's other ways ... using rsync, etc. ... but, the snap shot is an easy way if your are just experimenting and doesn't need to be perfectly current). I'm sure you'll notice I didn't mention anything about "skipping the cvs checkout part completely", as you originally asked. That's because most of that done in the bowels of the PDE build script itself. As far as I know there's no way to turn off the cvs checkout completely, but ... you might explore those scripts if you still wanted to explore that route. I appreciate everyone giving local builds a try and improving the wiki documentation. It's not only important for us committers, but I think also gives us good standing as Eclipse citizens. I've received complements from some builders that our builds are much easier to reproduce that some other projects -- and that's even before this new documentation!. Thanks From: "Konstantin Komissarchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <[email protected]> Date: 02/21/2008 06:09 PM Subject: RE: [wtp-dev] Please give it a try -> WTP Bach Build instructions That?s not a really good solution as it disrupts other people and makes it difficult to release changes that do need to be released, especially if it takes a while to iron out potential problems. What do people do to test structural changes (changes to features and/or build)? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen Zhang Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [wtp-dev] Please give it a try -> WTP Bach Build instructions Hi Konstantin, The easiest way to do this is to committing your changes in to HEAD, and then do an N build instead of an I build, specifying the project wtp-R3.0-N. Contents in N build should be similar to that of an I build, and you'd probably want to know if it works in a N build as well... : ) Regards, Helen Zhang Release Engineer, Project Manager Rational Architecture Management Project Management Office Eclipse Webtools Platform (WTP) IBM Toronto Software Lab | 8200 Warden Ave. | Markham | L6G 1C7 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 905-413-3443 | T/L: 969-3443 "Konstantin Komissarchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/2008 03:51 PM Please respond to "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <[email protected]> To "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <[email protected]> cc Subject RE: [wtp-dev] Please give it a try -> WTP Bach Build instructions Helen, I was able to run a WTP build using these instructions. Thanks! Now I am trying to do a build with some local changes (to test those changes). Basically, I want to skip the whole "get stuff from cvs" phase and just build what I have. I do want to get as far as generating the build results page, etc. Any idea, how I could do that? - Konstantin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helen Zhang Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Please give it a try -> WTP Bach Build instructions Thank you for trying Naci. I've updated the wiki page with your suggestions. As well as to comment out a line in the ant.sh file, let me know if you can get further into the build Thanks! Regards, Helen Zhang Release Engineer, Project Manager Rational Architecture Management Project Management Office Eclipse Webtools Platform (WTP) IBM Toronto Software Lab | 8200 Warden Ave. | Markham | L6G 1C7 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 905-413-3443 | T/L: 969-3443 Naci Dai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/2008 09:46 AM Please respond to "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <[email protected]> To "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <[email protected]> cc Subject Re: [wtp-dev] Please give it a try -> WTP Bach Build instructions Hi Helen, Thank you for documenting the build. I tried your instructions on a SUSE Linux 10.1. Here is as far as I could get I took some notes. I will try more and report :-) ------------- Just a personal preference - But I think it would be better to call it local builds as opposed to batch builds Step 1) Do I need JDK 1.5 or 1.4? It would be good to clarify why they are both needed. It would be better to say 2.0.x stream requires... Step 2) The instructions assume that the build machine is a linux box. I think it would be quite hard ro run it elsewhere. It would be good to make a note of that and maybe provide pointers for people who would like to try to build it on windows (i.e get cvs, unzip etc, put it on your path etc.) Of course they will have to convert all the shell scripts. Step 3) Checkout failed as described on the wiki cvs [export aborted]: absolute pathnames invalid for server (specified `/home/ndai/wtp-build needed to use a relative path: cd /home/ndai/wtp-build cvs -Q -f -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/webtools export -d ./releng.control -r HEAD webtools.releng/releng.control Step 4) I did copy the localBuild files to ../local-props made the mods - I was under the impression that I needed to copy commonVariations.shsource but I realized later it was not the case. Step 5) ant.sh is not executable when you export from cvs, need to make it executable (chmod +x) And running the command caused an error message: ./ant.sh: line 17: commonVariations.shsource: No such file or directory Checking the file, I defined the environment variable RELENG_CONTROL and got a little further but ended with other error messages (primarily complaining about Xvfb - and Java Home [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/wtp-build/releng.control> ./ant.sh ?f cc_project_build.xml ?Dprojectname=wtp-R3.0-I ~/wtp-build/releng.control ~/wtp-build/releng.control Project Home: /home/ndai/wtp-build/releng.control Build Home: /home/ndai/wtp-build DISPLAY: 127.0.0.1:1.0 JAVA_4_HOME: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1_4_2-sun-1.4.2.16 JAVA_5_HOME: /usr/java/jdk1.5.0_14 ANT_HOME: /home/ndai/dev/apache-ant-1.7.0/ PATH: /home/ndai/dev/apache-ant-1.7.0//bin:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_14/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-maven-2.0.8/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-ant-1.7.0/bin:/opt/ibm/db2/V9.5/bin:/usr/local/pgsql/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-maven-2.0.8/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-maven-2.0.8/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-ant-1.7.0/bin:/opt/ibm/db2/V9.5/bin:/usr/local/pgsql/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-maven-2.0.8/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-maven-2.0.8/bin:/home/ndai/dev/apache-ant-1.7.0/bin:/opt/ibm/db2/V9.5/bin:/home/ndai/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde3/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/jre/bin:/usr/lib/mit/bin:/usr/lib/mit/sbin:/opt/novell/iprint/bin BASEOS: linux BASEWS: gtk BASEARCH: x86 LOCAL_BUILD_PROPERTIES_DIR: /home/ndai/wtp-build/localprops remember to check that X virtual frame buffer is running for headless JUnit testing ndai 23597 23585 0 14:27 pts/0 00:00:00 grep Xvfb ~/wtp-build/releng.control : command not found Error: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly. /bin/javaot execute /usr/lib/jvm/java-1_4_2-sun-1.4.2.16 Hi there, Here's some instructions on how to setup a WTP batch build locally. Please give it a try and see if these instructions work on your local box, and any feedback is welcome (feel free to make updates on the wiki directly). Please post questions on wtp-releng for any clarifications. Thank you! http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Batch_Build Regards, Helen Zhang Release Engineer, Project Manager Rational Architecture Management Project Management Office Eclipse Webtools Platform (WTP) IBM Toronto Software Lab | 8200 Warden Ave. | Markham | L6G 1C7 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Phone: 905-413-3443 | T/L: 969-3443 _______________________________________________ wtp-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/wtp-dev _______________________________________________ wtp-dev mailing list [email protected] https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/wtp-dev Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted and/or legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named in this message. 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