So, just so we're clear, should we expect the WTP team to work on a TomEE
server adapter (provided via the discovery mechanism) or will you guys wait
for an external contribution?

I personally can't imagine a TomEE server adapter living outside the WTP
codebase, since it's pretty much a tomcat 7++. And I'm pretty sure at least
the Tomcat runtime detection algorithm will need to know about it, to avoid
detecting it as tomcat 7.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Mike Milinkovich <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification.
>
>
>
> Mike Milinkovich
>
> [email protected]
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> +1.613.220.3223
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>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Elson Yuen
> *Sent:* November-07-13 9:25 AM
>
> *To:* General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
>
>
>
> Let me clarify that I am not suggesting to move the tomcat server out of
> the WTP project.  All I am saying is we'd like to expose the new server
> adapters via the discovery mechanism.
>
> Regards,
> Elson
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Elson Yuen, P.Eng.
> RAD and WebSphere Server Tools Architect
> IBM Toronto Lab
> Tel: (905) 413-2689, T/L: 313-2689
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Tim deBoer---11/07/2013 08:43:21
> AM---This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is sug]Tim
> deBoer---11/07/2013 08:43:21 AM---This has been WTP's policy for several
> years, and nobody is suggesting otherwise. I assume this was
>
> From: Tim deBoer/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA
> To: "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <
> [email protected]>,
> Date: 11/07/2013 08:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
> Sent by: [email protected]
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> This has been WTP's policy for several years, and nobody is suggesting
> otherwise. I assume this was just paranoia around Elson's choice of words.
>
> Tim
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Mike Milinkovich ---05/11/2013 06:03:34
> PM---A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to th]Mike
> Milinkovich ---05/11/2013 06:03:34 PM---A big +1 to that, with a particular
> tip of the hat to the notion of supporting popular open source s
>
>  From:
>
>
> Mike Milinkovich <[email protected]>
>
>  To:
>
>
> [email protected], "'General discussion of project-wide or
> architectural issues.'" <[email protected]>,
>
>  Date:
>
>
> 05/11/2013 06:03 PM
>
>  Subject:
>
>
> Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
>
>  Sent by:
>
>
> [email protected]
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> A big +1 to that, with a particular tip of the hat to the notion of
> supporting popular open source servers like Tomcat out of the box. Last
> time I checked, Tomcat was an Apache project, not "vendor specific".
>
>  *From: *Konstantin Komissarchik
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:55 PM
> * To: *'General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.'
> *Reply To: *General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
> *Subject: *Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
>
>
> While decoupling of WTP from individual server adapters is great, we
> should not be pushing server adapter maintainers away from Eclipse
> Foundation, if that’s where the maintainers would like to develop and host
> a particular adapter. This is especially true for adapters with long
> history of active development at Eclipse Foundation, like the Tomcat
> adapter. The key goals is decoupling of adapter schedules from WTP schedule
> and providing uniform access to adapters via adapter discovery, but none of
> those goals actually require moving adapter development somewhere else.
> Tomcat adapter could be split off as a separate project under server tools
> (provides release schedule independence) and published on eclipse.org for
> adapter discovery.
>
> - Konstantin
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Elson Yuen
> * Sent:* Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:32 PM
> *To:* General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> * Subject:* Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
>
>
> In general, our direction is to move away to from shipping individual
> server adapters directly within WTP.  We are pushing for all vendor
> specific server adapters to provide externally via the "Download additional
> server adapters" link.  Therefore, if you happens to be creating a new
> server adapter for TomEE, it should be exposed via the downloadable server
> adapter.  See the plugin org.eclipse.wst.server.discovery for providing
> additional server adapter.
>
> Regards,
> Elson
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Elson Yuen, P.Eng.
> RAD and WebSphere Server Tools Architect
> IBM Toronto Lab
> Tel: (905) 413-2689, T/L: 313-2689
>
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> [image: Inactive hide details for Larry Isaacs ---11/05/2013 04:06:55
> PM---Hi Fred, With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-do]Larry
> Isaacs ---11/05/2013 04:06:55 PM---Hi Fred, With respect to Tomcat-8
> support, it is on my to-do list including creating a BZ entry.  Th
>
> From: Larry Isaacs <[email protected]>
> To: "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <
> [email protected]>,
> Date: 11/05/2013 04:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
> Sent by: [email protected]
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Fred,
>
> With respect to Tomcat-8 support, it is on my to-do list including
> creating a BZ entry.  The problem is I’m back to struggling to finding
> enough cycles to get something finished and committed.  I have done some
> initial work that needs a little clean up before it is ready to commit.
>  The big unknown is the “Serve Modules without Publishing” feature, as they
> have made major changes to how resources are handled in Tomcat 8.  That
> will likely have to come later.  It’s unclear whether I will get the
> initial work committed for 3.6.0M3.  I have some extra vacation scheduled
> around Thanksgiving, so I should be able to get it into 3.6.0M4 if not in
> M3.
>
> Cheers,
> Larry
>
> *From:* [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
> *On Behalf Of *Fred Bricon
> * Sent:* Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:40 PM
> *To:* General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues.
> *Subject:* [wtp-dev] Tomcat 8 and TomEE support
>
> Hi,
>
> I vaguely remember reading something, somewhere, about a Tomcat 8 support
> work-in-progress. I couldn't find any related BZ ticket though. What's the
> status on that matter?
>
> There's one request[1] to add TomEE to the list of supported servers. Do
> you have any plans on adding that to Luna?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
>
> {1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=387733
>
>
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