Hi Rob,

Thanks for considering this contribution...  It looks promising with very 
interesting applications for WTP as you mentioned.  I agree with Doug its 
way too late for Mars at this point, but we should keep up the discussion 
for the next release perhaps Mars SR1.

Can you open an enhancement bugzilla to track your work, and we can 
discuss the contribution, the benefits over the current lanuch UI etc....


Thanks - Chuck

Senior Architect, WebSphere Developer Tools, Eclipse WTP PMC Lead
IBM Software Lab - Research Triangle Park, NC



From:   Doug Schaefer <[email protected]>
To:     "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." 
<[email protected]>
Date:   05/18/2015 07:29 PM
Subject:        Re: [wtp-dev] Question on new contribution
Sent by:        [email protected]



Hi Rob,

Actually, the dependencies from remote and launch bar aren’t any different 
than RSE and Terminal today. It uses the CDT native services for terminal 
type things and that’s about it unless I’m missing something.

But it’s really late in Mars to be doing much more. When is WTP’s next 
release? The next minor release for remote and launch bar should be in 
Sept with Mars SR-1. We should be able to add API and features to support 
WTP and other new users of these frameworks. We can do any required API 
clean up with a major release at Neon.

Doug

From: Rob Stryker <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <
[email protected]>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2015 at 6:20 PM
To: "General discussion of project-wide or architectural issues." <
[email protected]>
Subject: [wtp-dev] Question on new contribution

Hi All: 

So, there's a new feature currently being developed in a CDT repo, but 
with ambitions to be used throughout eclipse, and moved to somewhere more 
conveinent. The feature is named "launchbar", and you can read about it 
here:  https://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/LaunchBar

As you can see from the UI, it's intention is to streamline launching 
things.  Looking at it, it *does* seem like it'd be quite a nice fit for 
webtools.servertools, to "debug" "MyServlet" on "Some Tomcat Server". 

I've developed a proof-of-concept which seems to work quite nicely so far, 
but to see it in action you'd need to have org.eclipse.remote (which is in 
the ptp repo for now) and a few low-level CDT plugins that it depends on. 

I currently have my PoC over at: 
https://github.com/robstryker/jbt-experimental 

Is there a place in webtools for such a contribution? I'd be willing to 
work with org.eclipse.remote (in the ptp repo) and org.eclipse.launchbar 
(in the cdt repo) to clean up their dependencies and make this easier to 
consume, but obviously only if webtools had an interest in such a 
contribution. 

In its shortest form, it's basically a faster and more prominent way to 
execute the Run On Server action. Many users in the past have complained 
it was a bit hard to find that action, and launchbar is a very obvious way 
to make it more likely to grab their attention. 

Unfortunately upstream APIs aren't quite what we'd consider "stable", and 
are still undergoing frequent changes. The o.e.remote addition is expected 
to be the next generation of RSE, and both that and launchbar are 
expecting Mars to be their 1.0 release. 

I'd love to hear if there's interest in such a thing, and what 
requirements you'd all have as conditions (ie dep tree, etc). 

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