By deprecate do you mean

 (a) remove it; or
 (b) cause to issue a deprecation warning when required?

Bret

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Charley Baker <[email protected]>wrote:

> Yep, of course. My only thought there was to deprecate it, since it is
> a bit old and untested, as well as ping the watir general list and
> find out who's using it, and make sure we cover the base use cases as
> well as inviting people in for however they may have extended it. I'll
> send an email to that effect now.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Charley Baker
> Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Jarmo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > As a sidenote, deprecating CookieManager can be a totally independent
> thing
> > since currently nothing loads it automatically in Watir. So if someone is
> > using it then they had to load it manually. I'd say that makes it even
> more
> > doubtful that it's used. But who knows. Just don'd deprecate it before
> > there's some real implementation :)
> > Jarmo
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Charley Baker <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> That sounds like a good general API. Watir has had the CookieManager
> >> trailing around for a while as a contributed component. I'm not sure
> >> how many people use it, but it's a bit weak and is more of an addon
> >> than truly integrated into the core API which it should be. I've
> >> hacked around that area a bit for some of the gap common domains, and
> >> cookie refreshes.
> >>
> >> I'd like to get more feedback from users, as this is a fairly common
> >> case. I'll ping a few people as well, since the Gap uses various
> >> toplevel domains and redirection but some common cookies across
> >> domains for a type of SSO. A lot of the cookie work there was visiting
> >> custom urls for refreshing/deleting. FB had something similar.
> >>
> >> This is a good idea to incorporate cookie management more cleanly, and
> >> the api looks good. Next steps imho, let's figure out who if anyone is
> >> using the CookieManager, and deprecate that. Pull a few use cases from
> >> some companies that are doing a lot cookie management, write some
> >> tests and implement.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> Charley Baker
> >> Lead Developer, Watir, http://watir.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Jari Bakken <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Jarmo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> In #watir channel we had a short discussion about a possible unified
> >> >> API
> >> >> between all current Watir implementations. We came up with an API
> like
> >> >> this:
> >> >> browser.cookies # returns Cookies object which includes Enumerable
> >> >> browser.clear # removes all cookies
> >> >> browser << new_cookie # adds cookie
> >> >> browser.delete new_cookie
> >> >> #<< should take a Cookie object as an argument if i understood
> >> >> correctly
> >> >> with #delete cookies are deleted only by "name" when talking about
> >> >> Watir-WebDriver, but maybe it's/will be different with other
> >> >> implementations
> >> >> so #delete should also take a Cookie object as an argument. Or maybe
> >> >> just
> >> >> "name".
> >> >
> >> > You probably mean browser.cookies.clear, browser.cookies << etc.
> >> > Something like this: https://gist.github.com/763769.
> >> >
> >> > I think #add wouldn't need to take a separate Cookie object - a Hash
> >> > will probably do fine (the Cookies class can do some validation). The
> >> > way it works in WebDriver (which IMO it would make sense to adopt),
> >> > cookies look like this:
> >> >
> >> > {
> >> >  :name => "foo",
> >> >  :value => "bar",
> >> >  :path => "/some/path",
> >> >  :domain => "some.domain",
> >> >  :expires => DateTime,
> >> >  :secure  => true/false
> >> > }
> >> >
> >> > When adding a Cookie, only the :name and :value keys are mandatory,
> >> > :path defaults to "/", :secure defaults to false, :domain defaults to
> >> > the current domain, and :expires will only be set if set by the user
> >> > (valid types are Time, DateTime, or Numeric (number of seconds)).
> >> >
> >> > A constraint in WebDriver is that cookie manipulation only affects the
> >> > current domain - if Cookies#add is called with another domain, it will
> >> > raise an InvalidCookieDomain error. Likewise, Cookies#clear will only
> >> > clear cookies for the current domain. I'm not entirely sure what the
> >> > reason for this is (I'm suspecting IE), perhaps Simon can shed some
> >> > light. If we want cross-browser compatible, we may need to
> >> > (artificially) impose this constraint , even for implementations that
> >> > can support cross-domain cookie manipulation.
> >> >
> >> > Jari
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Jari liked more the API where "name" is the argument due to the
> >> >> limitations
> >> >> of WebDriver, but this would mean that if user has a Cookie object
> >> >> already
> >> >> then he/she had to execute #name explicitly. I wouldn't make that as
> a
> >> >> requirement.
> >> >> I also noticed that currently Watir doesn't have anything related
> with
> >> >> cookies except CookieManager, which seems not to be best. And nothing
> >> >> for
> >> >> FireWatir. That means that the API for cookies is an open subject and
> >> >> free
> >> >> to change, i guess.
> >> >> What are other's thoughts about the matter?
> >> >> Jarmo
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